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laura 19-11-2004 10:25 AM

Attaching birdboxes to trees/sheds
 
I can't find anywhere that tells me how to do this
I have several medium sized trees in a woody area which I think is the best site - and I have 2 boxes ( not sure what they are but they don't have round holes so I suppose they're bat boxes) & I can't see how they're fixed

Is it Ok to nail/screw - I'd prefer not to - & if not then how?

I have a shed with eaves which is quite high off the ground - but is it an issue under the eaves where things can reach down from the roof? ( they could get access via next door's oak tree)

Dwayne 19-11-2004 02:16 PM

What kind of birds do you want to attract? Some wrens like houses under
your house eaves. Some birds want to be out in the open (blue birds). All
birds don't like the wind blowing into the opening, or the sun shining in
during the hot part of the day.

I think under the eaves would be fine. I nail or screw mine there or onto
the side of a tree. They work very well except for the occasional snake
that makes its way up the tree and into the bird house.

Most importantly, set them where you can observe and enjoy the birds without
bothering them.

Have fun and Enjoy.


"laura" wrote in message
...

I can't find anywhere that tells me how to do this
I have several medium sized trees in a woody area which I think is the
best site - and I have 2 boxes ( not sure what they are but they don't
have round holes so I suppose they're bat boxes) & I can't see how
they're fixed

Is it Ok to nail/screw - I'd prefer not to - & if not then how?

I have a shed with eaves which is quite high off the ground - but is it
an issue under the eaves where things can reach down from the roof? (
they could get access via next door's oak tree)


--
laura





Mike Lyle 19-11-2004 02:30 PM

Dwayne wrote:
What kind of birds do you want to attract? Some wrens like houses
under your house eaves. Some birds want to be out in the open

(blue
birds). All birds don't like the wind blowing into the opening,

or
the sun shining in during the hot part of the day.

I think under the eaves would be fine. I nail or screw mine there

or
onto the side of a tree. They work very well except for the
occasional snake that makes its way up the tree and into the bird
house.

Most importantly, set them where you can observe and enjoy the

birds
without bothering them.

Have fun and Enjoy.


"laura" wrote in message
...

I can't find anywhere that tells me how to do this
I have several medium sized trees in a woody area which I think is
the best site - and I have 2 boxes ( not sure what they are but

they
don't have round holes so I suppose they're bat boxes) & I can't

see
how they're fixed

Is it Ok to nail/screw - I'd prefer not to - & if not then how?

I have a shed with eaves which is quite high off the ground - but

is
it an issue under the eaves where things can reach down from the
roof? ( they could get access via next door's oak tree)

As Dwayne says, it's important to avoid a southern aspect. There are
good instructions available from several sources: RSPB on line is
always the place to start.

For bat boxes, I think the Conservation Trust is where I got a good
leaflet; don't know if they're on line, though.

Nails into trees are ok if the trees will never be used for timber:
use 3" minimum (I'd use 4"), drilling the box first to save
splitting. But I would never nail into any of the prunus (plum,
cherry, almond etc) as they're likely to catch diseases through a
wound.

Mike.



bnd777 19-11-2004 05:39 PM


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
Dwayne wrote:
What kind of birds do you want to attract? Some wrens like houses
under your house eaves. Some birds want to be out in the open

(blue
birds). All birds don't like the wind blowing into the opening,

or
the sun shining in during the hot part of the day.

I think under the eaves would be fine. I nail or screw mine there

or
onto the side of a tree. They work very well except for the
occasional snake that makes its way up the tree and into the bird
house.

Most importantly, set them where you can observe and enjoy the

birds
without bothering them.

Have fun and Enjoy.


"laura" wrote in message
...

I can't find anywhere that tells me how to do this
I have several medium sized trees in a woody area which I think is
the best site - and I have 2 boxes ( not sure what they are but

they
don't have round holes so I suppose they're bat boxes) & I can't

see
how they're fixed

Is it Ok to nail/screw - I'd prefer not to - & if not then how?

I have a shed with eaves which is quite high off the ground - but

is
it an issue under the eaves where things can reach down from the
roof? ( they could get access via next door's oak tree)

As Dwayne says, it's important to avoid a southern aspect. There are
good instructions available from several sources: RSPB on line is
always the place to start.

For bat boxes, I think the Conservation Trust is where I got a good
leaflet; don't know if they're on line, though.

Nails into trees are ok if the trees will never be used for timber:
use 3" minimum (I'd use 4"), drilling the box first to save
splitting. But I would never nail into any of the prunus (plum,
cherry, almond etc) as they're likely to catch diseases through a
wound.

Mike.



Blue tits like their boxes to face North



Michael Savage 19-11-2004 05:52 PM


"laura" wrote in message
...

I can't find anywhere that tells me how to do this
I have several medium sized trees in a woody area which I think is the
best site - and I have 2 boxes ( not sure what they are but they don't
have round holes so I suppose they're bat boxes) & I can't see how
they're fixed

Is it Ok to nail/screw - I'd prefer not to - & if not then how?

I have a shed with eaves which is quite high off the ground - but is it
an issue under the eaves where things can reach down from the roof? (
they could get access via next door's oak tree)


--
laura


Bat boxes are usually small flattish things with a tiny crack underneath
(bats have very small heads and bodies) so my bet is you've got an opening
on the front about 10-15cm square or rectangular? Good for robins and a
bunch of other species. BTO do a fanatastic book on nestboxes, and RSPB have
info too
http://www.rspb.org/gardens/guide/atoz/n/nestbox.asp

Michael S



ned 19-11-2004 08:17 PM


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
"laura" wrote in message
...

I can't find anywhere that tells me how to do this
I have several medium sized trees in a woody area which I think

is
the best site - and I have 2 boxes ( not sure what they are but

they
don't have round holes so I suppose they're bat boxes) & I can't

see
how they're fixed

Is it Ok to nail/screw - I'd prefer not to - & if not then how?

I have a shed with eaves which is quite high off the ground - but

is
it an issue under the eaves where things can reach down from the
roof? ( they could get access via next door's oak tree)


Nails into trees are ok if the trees will never be used for timber:
use 3" minimum (I'd use 4"), drilling the box first to save
splitting. But I would never nail into any of the prunus (plum,
cherry, almond etc) as they're likely to catch diseases through a
wound.


'Can't be authoritive about nails in trees but,
....... I wouldn't. We have an old hollow tree and its plain that nails
were hammered into it.
Whether that was cause and effect, I can't say, but a similar tree
grows very healthily close by.
I tie my nest boxes into the angles between branches. The boxes have
to come down every couple of years to be cleaned out so they never get
permanently wedged in.
And the trouble with shed attachments is that the shed might get a
fair bit of use during the nesting season which will put the nesters
off.
Its never easy, is it. :-)

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 12.11.2004



Franz Heymann 19-11-2004 08:36 PM


"laura" wrote in message
...

I can't find anywhere that tells me how to do this
I have several medium sized trees in a woody area which I think is

the
best site - and I have 2 boxes ( not sure what they are but they

don't
have round holes so I suppose they're bat boxes) & I can't see how
they're fixed

Is it Ok to nail/screw - I'd prefer not to - & if not then how?


Skyhooks?
{:-))

Franz

I have a shed with eaves which is quite high off the ground - but is

it
an issue under the eaves where things can reach down from the roof?

(
they could get access via next door's oak tree)


--
laura




ex WGS Hamm 20-11-2004 11:03 PM


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
But I would never nail into any of the prunus (plum,
cherry, almond etc) as they're likely to catch diseases through a
wound.

Cherry aids?



MG 29-11-2004 07:33 PM

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:25:20 +0000, laura
wrote:


I can't find anywhere that tells me how to do this
I have several medium sized trees in a woody area which I think is the
best site - and I have 2 boxes ( not sure what they are but they don't
have round holes so I suppose they're bat boxes) & I can't see how
they're fixed

Is it Ok to nail/screw - I'd prefer not to - & if not then how?

I have a shed with eaves which is quite high off the ground - but is it
an issue under the eaves where things can reach down from the roof? (
they could get access via next door's oak tree)



Here is a thread I started on uk.rec.birdwatching on just this issue !

"MG" wrote in message
...
Hi

Anyone know a good resource on the web for info on styles of boxes for
specific birds and details of siting etc?
**REMOVE** 'myhat' from my return email address before sending!!


The following site is very good for practical manufacture as well as
information. I can make (and have) hundreds of nestboxes very cheaply,
perhaps around £2.20 each that have lasted up to 7 years so far.

http://www.lincstrust.org.uk/factsheets/nestbox.php

eddy bayton

Wilkinsons have some in the pet section for £1.49 (although says 99p
in brochure!)! They are only really suitable for Tits.

I want to make a Robin compat one up for my Robins though.

I have had an RSPB green plastic 'log effect' Tit box up for 2 years
and no takers. In a nice quiet sheltered cormer too...

It is the siting issue I want to address....

I did see a brief synopsis on this site after I posted:

http://www.sussexwt.org.uk/bird_boxes.htm


MG
**REMOVE** 'myhat' from my return email address before sending!!


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