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JennyC wrote:


I had to fill in a form recently for a job application and filled in
RPGII as one of my programming languages................the nice young
man at the agency looked at me as if I had crawled out from under a
stone............:~(

He probably thought of it as something that you wrote a Role Playing
Game in :-)

A nice remark made by someone from IBM Toronto a few decades back
was they they (then) owned RPG and C - for former for the gorillas
and the latter for the guerillas :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
Email:
Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679

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"Drakanthus" muttered something incoherent
along the lines of:

I had to fill in a form recently for a job application and filled in
RPGII as one of my programming languages................the nice young
man at the agency looked at me as if I had crawled out from under a
stone............:~(

I remember that but didn't use it. Autocoder, Plan and Cobol were what
we used. (IBM, ICL, Honeywell).
--
June Hughes

An interesting profile is forming here. Are many of the regulars to this
group former or current programmers / IT staff ?
Drakanthus (software developer for over twenty years)

I'm not a regular, but I am a developer/development manager. Shortly
to be IS Team Manager for a big utility, which is nice. As long as I
remember to reply in German when I'm boarding the train. IYSWIM.
}:8)
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"Drakanthus" wrote in
:

In actual fact - I designed the web site for the company, my father is a
director of the company - and in return for my web design services they
installed garden lighting for me at my house.

Matt Cody

It just gets better doesn't it!

The spammer said:
"The guys that came to do the work, were friendly and polite"

Not surprising really - daddy owns the company!

Well, I was going to suggest that the client should be rather unhappy about
the inappropriate way the site was promoted to potential clients, and it
seemed a bit hard cheese on them.

But if people will get their children to do work for them, then they can't
really complain about the odd screw-up - presumably it's an accepted part
of the learning process, like not mowing the lawn very well and semi-washed
cars...

I wonder if there is a grandchild who designs the company brochure with
crayons?

Victoria Clare

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"Drakanthus" wrote
An interesting profile is forming here. Are many of the regulars to this
group former or current programmers / IT staff ?
Drakanthus (software developer for over twenty years)

No, but my son is, if that counts. ;)

Sue

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"Drakanthus" wrote
I had to fill in a form recently for a job application and filled
in
RPGII as one of my programming languages................the nice
young
man at the agency looked at me as if I had crawled out from under
a
stone............:~(

I remember that but didn't use it. Autocoder, Plan and Cobol were
what
we used. (IBM, ICL, Honeywell).
June Hughes

An interesting profile is forming here. Are many of the regulars to
this
group former or current programmers / IT staff ?
Drakanthus (software developer for over twenty years)

Yes there are a few It'ers in URG.

I rolled into IT by accident back in the early '70's as a 'Computer
Programming Secretary' with IBM, which really meant glorified data
typist :~))
Progressed from there to programmer and did 1st + 2nd line helpdesk
for years in good old Business Basic :~))
Got chucked out several years ago in a reorganisation and am now into
web design.

I think I like gardening because it gets me out from behind the
computer occasionally :~))
Jenny
www.welcome.to/Webwise

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"June Hughes" wrote in message
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In article , Jane Ransom
writes
In article , JennyC
writes

I had to fill in a form recently for a job application and filled
in
RPGII as one of my programming languages................the nice
young
man at the agency looked at me as if I had crawled out from under
a

But that is *still* the mainstay of the AS400 machines, June!!!!!!

moi?
June Hughes

Moi I think (Jenny!)

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An interesting profile is forming here. Are many of the regulars to
this
group former or current programmers / IT staff ?
Drakanthus (software developer for over twenty years)

Yes there are a few It'ers in URG.

I rolled into IT by accident back in the early '70's as a 'Computer
Programming Secretary' with IBM, which really meant glorified data
typist :~))
Progressed from there to programmer and did 1st + 2nd line helpdesk
for years in good old Business Basic :~))
Got chucked out several years ago in a reorganisation and am now into
web design.


I.T. seems to move quicker every year. Over the last 20 years I've learnt
countless languages and operating systems and every year there is always a
new language (or re-hash of an earlier one) to come to grips with. Things I
learnt not many years ago are now only fit for the history books: Fortran,
Cobol, numerous Basics, Assembly, Clipper, EDI, DCL etc, etc. Now
programmers need to speak .NET, XML (really a rehash of EDI I was doing 15
years ago), XSL. Will it never end?

I think I like gardening because it gets me out from behind the
computer occasionally :~))
Jenny

I agree. A fellow programmer said to me a couple of years ago "why do you
bother to grow your own veg - it is so cheap to buy". I told him he was
missing the point. After spending all day, every day, in a stuffy office
staring at a monitor - the only "Windows" to look at were supplied my
Microsoft - I found it envigorating to get outside in the sunshine (or
rain!) and get my hands dirty, knees muddy and back aching! I feel "alive"
after a good session in the garden. It is also so rewarding to see the
little seedlings grow into big plants - and finally to see then on the
dinner plate - knowing they haven't been sprayed with pesticides.

Drakanthus

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"Drakanthus" wrote in message
...
An interesting profile is forming here. Are many of the regulars to this
group former or current programmers / IT staff ?
Drakanthus (software developer for over twenty years)
No, aerospace engineer here, but used computers in the 70's before most
knew what they really were.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

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In article , Cerumen
writes

"Drakanthus" wrote in message
...
An interesting profile is forming here. Are many of the regulars to this
group former or current programmers / IT staff ?
Drakanthus (software developer for over twenty years)
No, aerospace engineer here, but used computers in the 70's before most
knew what they really were.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

Doh! West Cork! Every time I see one of your postings, I feel very
envious of you living in such a beautiful place. Lucky you! (am
sulking now :)

(Actually, it's not so different from West Cumbria, where I grew up,
except that you have all that ocean to the south and west!)
--
June Hughes

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Drakanthus wrote:
I had to fill in a form recently for a job application and filled in
RPGII as one of my programming languages................the nice
young man at the agency looked at me as if I had crawled out from
under a stone............:~(

I remember that but didn't use it. Autocoder, Plan and Cobol were
what we used. (IBM, ICL, Honeywell).
--
June Hughes

An interesting profile is forming here. Are many of the regulars to
this group former or current programmers / IT staff ?
Drakanthus (software developer for over twenty years)

waves

been in IT one way or another since 1976 when Computer Rooms were sealed
environments the size of a sports hall. Life was a lot simpler then: load a
tape (mostly magnetic, sometimes paper), run a program, print the output.
Punched cards still make splendid shopping lists ;o) Progressed (?) through
various programming and IT support jobs and now run a small business
supplying IT services to SMEs and some not so small on a good day.

Network cabling is ok and requires just as much knowledge about real-world
issues like discrete routing and installation through buildings. Also means
I get to drive the Land Rover to work some days full of big boys toys.

Set up the web hosting business to support internet based application
development because I couldn't find a service offering what I needed. Most
web hosts can offer MS-Access or MySql but real db performance at low cost
of entry there was nothing around.

For some reason I can't quite grasp, we seem to be doing quite well in the
Charity/NFP sector lately. Hopefully that will carry on through with
inertia. It's difficult to know what to do to encourage more activity when
you don't know why the interest was there in the first place. I suspect,
but can't verify, that we are seeing referal activity.

Full sig is being phased out and rarley (if ever) gets an airing here, but
it seems on topic for this thread so ...
--
William Tasso - The road to hell is littered with fallen webmasters.
http://www.tbdata.com/hosting - ASP web site hosting + SQL Server
http://www.tbdata.com/cabling - Cat 5/6 network cabling installations

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Drakanthus wrote:
...
I think I like gardening because it gets me out from behind the
computer occasionally :~))
Jenny

I agree. A fellow programmer said to me a couple of years ago "why do
you bother to grow your own veg - it is so cheap to buy". I told him
he was missing the point. After spending all day, every day, in a
stuffy office staring at a monitor - the only "Windows" to look at
were supplied my Microsoft - I found it envigorating to get outside
in the sunshine (or rain!) and get my hands dirty, knees muddy and
back aching! I feel "alive" after a good session in the garden.

Digging is the best therapy for de-stressing. The technical side of
gardening I am happy to leave to others. I guess a little will be absorbed
over time, but for the most part the bit I like about gardening is that I'm
not in the office.

It
is also so rewarding to see the little seedlings grow into big plants
- and finally to see then on the dinner plate - knowing they haven't
been sprayed with pesticides.

A friend of mine promised me a complete home-grown meal after he 'retired'
to the country a few years back. He was good for his promise too, including
the lamb. Good luck to him.
--
William Tasso

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from Mike contains these words:

Which was it for, the H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion, the British
Pacific and East Indies Fleets Reunion, the River Class Association
Reunion Dinner, the Fred Olson 'Black Prince' Cruise or the article
about the National Service (Royal Air Force) Association?

I have terrific feedback from the 'Letter to the Editors' I write to,
but I never know which paper has done which letter until I get feed back
and the person actually tells me which paper they saw it in.

There was a "Letter to the Editor" in the Perthshire Advertiser today,
something about "Did you serve on the Collingwood" but I didn't pay it
much attention......I'll have another look at it tomorrow, if you like?

--
AnneJ

ICQ #:- 119531282

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from MrMoosehead contains these words:

I'm not a regular, but I am a developer/development manager. Shortly
to be IS Team Manager for a big utility, which is nice. As long as I
remember to reply in German when I'm boarding the train. IYSWIM.

In here picking up a few tips for the new garden, huh? ;-)
I just "met" Eddie and Lesley over in the pets NG!

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Begin ,
quote...
I had to fill in a form recently for a job application and filled in
RPGII as one of my programming languages................the nice young
man at the agency looked at me as if I had crawled out from under a
stone............:~(

I remember that but didn't use it. Autocoder, Plan and Cobol were what
we used. (IBM, ICL, Honeywell).
--
June Hughes

An interesting profile is forming here. Are many of the regulars to this
group former or current programmers / IT staff ?
Drakanthus (software developer for over twenty years)

*hold up hand*

There's another very hard core group on usenet full of sysadmins (called
the monastery) and I believe every one of us harbours the urge to hang
up the etherkillers and doff the gardening gloves.

I think the main reason for this is the ehtos "Nobody ever got a
phonecall at 3am to attend a lawn-mowing emergency".

Looking over that tyop, I'll let the timestamp on this post speak for
itself.

Back to the garden though.

Wet as it is, dry as the shed is. We have no overhanging trees, and
precious littel in the way of shrub (yes that's a singular) since this
is season one of the garden that was home to the conifers.

I have this greenhouse full of nothing. Unheated and only a 6'x8' one. I
stuch the fuschia pots in there to protect them from frost and give a
little heat, and may put in a cable to keep things above 5 degrees.

There must be something I can be planting up or seeds I can put in.

Warwick

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"June Hughes" wrote in message
...
In article , Cerumen
writes
No, aerospace engineer here, but used computers in the 70's before most
knew what they really were.
--

Doh! West Cork! Every time I see one of your postings, I feel very
envious of you living in such a beautiful place. Lucky you! (am
sulking now :)

(Actually, it's not so different from West Cumbria, where I grew up,
except that you have all that ocean to the south and west!)

It is indeed a lovely area, not my original home, I was born in Wales, but
I am indeed lucky to live here.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland