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Vermin Cats
The owners and regular readers of this newsgroup should by now know my
dislike for the above vermin and will be very interested to know that a Cat and Dog Repeller we have just put into use, seems to be working very well. Called the Cat and Dog Repelleer, it works off 2 x 9 volt batteries and is a small and very portable unit and is easy to hide. It is made by STV International Ltd 2002 at Little Cressingham in Norfolk Gives a pulse of ultrasonic wave at a frequency range of 18k.hertz to 24 k.hertz, the lower part of the spectrum 'just' being audible. So far so good. We will keep you informed Mike :-)) -- H.M.S.Collingwood Ass. Llandudno 20 - 23 May Trip to Portmeirion National Service (RAF) Ass. Cosford 24 - 27 June Lanc Bomber Fly Past H.M.S.Impregnable Ass. Sussex 1 - 4 July Visit to Int. Fest of the Sea British Pacific Fleet. Derby 2 - 5 Sept. Visit to Denby Pottery |
"Mike" wrote in message
... The owners and regular readers of this newsgroup should by now know my dislike for the above vermin and will be very interested to know that a Cat and Dog Repeller we have just put into use, seems to be working very well. Called the Cat and Dog Repelleer, it works off 2 x 9 volt batteries and is a small and very portable unit and is easy to hide. It is made by STV International Ltd 2002 at Little Cressingham in Norfolk Gives a pulse of ultrasonic wave at a frequency range of 18k.hertz to 24 k.hertz, the lower part of the spectrum 'just' being audible. So far so good. We will keep you informed Mike :-)) -- H.M.S.Collingwood Ass. Llandudno 20 - 23 May Trip to Portmeirion National Service (RAF) Ass. Cosford 24 - 27 June Lanc Bomber Fly Past H.M.S.Impregnable Ass. Sussex 1 - 4 July Visit to Int. Fest of the Sea British Pacific Fleet. Derby 2 - 5 Sept. Visit to Denby Pottery Does it seem to be affecting anything else? I'd like to discourage the cats but don't want to upset the hedgehogs, bats or birds. -- Martin & Anna Sykes ( Remove x's when replying ) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm |
Does it seem to be affecting anything else? I'd like to discourage the cats but don't want to upset the hedgehogs, bats or birds. -- Martin & Anna Sykes ( Remove x's when replying ) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm It says "Cats, Dogs and Foxes" (We have had the latter as well) The box says that the other animals and birds are not affected. We have certainly had birds here and that is one reason we wanted the vermin kept out :-)) Mike |
In article , "Mike" writes: | | It says "Cats, Dogs and Foxes" (We have had the latter as well) The box says | that the other animals and birds are not affected. We have certainly had | birds here and that is one reason we wanted the vermin kept out :-)) I smear the gateposts with snake oil, myself. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , "Mike" writes: It says "Cats, Dogs and Foxes" (We have had the latter as well) The box says that the other animals and birds are not affected. We have certainly had birds here and that is one reason we wanted the vermin kept out :-)) I smear the gateposts with snake oil, myself. Funny you should mention that, Nick. Wonderful stuff. Cleanses the blood of harmful toxins and restores the natural balance, too. It happens that I've just taken delivery of a large quantity: I'd be glad to let fellow-urglers have some at cost plus post and packing. Mike. |
Does it seem to be affecting anything else? I'd like to discourage the cats but don't want to upset the hedgehogs, bats or birds. -- Just seen a Blackbird quite happy about 3 metres away from it :-)) Bloody cats. Should all be drowned at birth. |
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:13:28 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
wrote: Nick Maclaren wrote: In article , "Mike" writes: It says "Cats, Dogs and Foxes" (We have had the latter as well) The box says that the other animals and birds are not affected. We have certainly had birds here and that is one reason we wanted the vermin kept out :-)) I smear the gateposts with snake oil, myself. Funny you should mention that, Nick. Wonderful stuff. Cleanses the blood of harmful toxins and restores the natural balance, too. It happens that I've just taken delivery of a large quantity: I'd be glad to let fellow-urglers have some at cost plus post and packing. Well I am certainly interested in that. Where can I buy it and can I spray it around the garden? I love the birds and detest cats - sorry to any cat lovers - but we have more cats now than ever since new people moved into the Close. Diana Mike. |
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"Martin Sykes" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote in message ... The owners and regular readers of this newsgroup should by now know my dislike for the above vermin and will be very interested to know that a Cat and Dog Repeller we have just put into use, seems to be working very well. Called the Cat and Dog Repelleer, it works off 2 x 9 volt batteries and is a small and very portable unit and is easy to hide. It is made by STV International Ltd 2002 at Little Cressingham in Norfolk Gives a pulse of ultrasonic wave at a frequency range of 18k.hertz to 24 k.hertz, the lower part of the spectrum 'just' being audible. So far so good. We will keep you informed Does it seem to be affecting anything else? I'd like to discourage the cats but don't want to upset the hedgehogs, bats or birds. I'd like it to discourage squirrels! -- alan reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net -- Martin & Anna Sykes ( Remove x's when replying ) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm |
"Mike" wrote in message ... The owners and regular readers of this newsgroup should by now know my dislike for the above vermin and will be very interested to know that a Cat and Dog Repeller we have just put into use, seems to be working very well. Called the Cat and Dog Repelleer, it works off 2 x 9 volt batteries and is a small and very portable unit and is easy to hide. It is made by STV International Ltd 2002 at Little Cressingham in Norfolk Gives a pulse of ultrasonic wave at a frequency range of 18k.hertz to 24 k.hertz, the lower part of the spectrum 'just' being audible. One neighbour had one; just audible like tinnitus. However never seemed to bother another neighbours cats near the source. May be just coincidence but something has struck a cord (sorry), since the noise has stopped I have noticed a much bigger variety of birds in garden. |
My first posting in this group. :-)
In article , suspicious minds wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Gives a pulse of ultrasonic wave at a frequency range of 18k.hertz to 24 k.hertz, the lower part of the spectrum 'just' being audible. 18 - 24 kHz doesn't really strike me as 'ultrasonic' as I'd suspect that many people can hear a fair part of that range. (Although not me anymore. My hearing is now cut off by about 14 kHz.) One neighbour had one; just audible like tinnitus. However never seemed to bother another neighbours cats near the source. May be just coincidence but something has struck a cord (sorry), since the noise has stopped I have noticed a much bigger variety of birds in garden. So what *is* the best way to get rid of cats? I'm fairly new to gardening. Only taken it up with any real level of acitivity since I took early retirement last May. Enjoying it so far despite having little real clue what I'm doing. :-) However two doors down the road we have a 'cat lady'. She has an ever-changing population of semi-stray cats. Typically around a dozen to 20. The main victims of this are the neighbours in between her and us. But we also get frequent 'presents' left in the garden. And as I guess you would expect, as I dig and clear areas and plant things, they *love* the nice soft ground... In an area around a small apple tree in the back garden I tried covering the ground with cocoa mulch. I like the look and smell of this, and it did seem to put the cats off that area. More recently I worked on a flowbed at the front of the house, and here the cocoa mulch seemed to stop the 'presents' for a few weeks, but they resumed in the last couple of days. Is this, as I suspect, as the smell has gone? The layer of mulch I used at the front is much shallower than around the tree if that makes a significant difference(?) If the 'ultrasound' doesn't work, what does? I don't want to have to stand outside with a machine-gun. Nor do I want to have a dog. Our local garden center has a pot that you buy some sort of crystals to put in. The smell allegedly makes the cats go away. Does this sort of thing work? If not, what?... BTW does the snake oil also improve the sound of audio systems if you smear it on the cables?... :-) Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html |
Jim Lesurf wrote:
My first posting in this group. :-) [...] Welcome to the feast! So what *is* the best way to get rid of cats? Water pistol. [...] BTW does the snake oil also improve the sound of audio systems if you smear it on the cables?... :-) Absolutely: beyond recognition. You'll need different grades for classical and pop, though: the classical one is a bit more expensive (use classical formula for jazz, of course). Slainte, Iechyd da. Mike. |
Janet Baraclough wrote:
:: The message :: from Jim Lesurf contains these words: :: ::: My first posting in this group. :-) ::: So what *is* the best way to get rid of cats :: ::: I'm fairly new to gardening. Only taken it up with any real level ::: of acitivity since I took early retirement last May. Enjoying it ::: so far despite having little real clue what I'm doing. :-) :: :: Then let's assume that in future, you would like to discuss :: gardening with other gardeners in this group. Unfortunately, your :: first posting is a response to a troll, not a gardener. A troll is :: a pest-poster who attempts to cause trouble and disrupt the group; :: and they use this topic very often. To avoid troll timewasters, :: many posters killfile all threads with "cats" in the title, so But obviously not you? :: will have missed your introductory post. I suggest you start a new :: thread with a cat-free title and introduce yourself again. We're :: always glad to have new gardening posters. :: :: There's a weekly post called abc.for newcomers to :: uk.rec.gardening to welcome you to the group, full of useful tips :: how to get the best from it, and a link to the groups FAQ's, one :: of which answers your question about cats. :: :: Janet. I can't see why a post about deterring cats from shitting in your strawberries is deemed as timewasting and trolling unless of course...you own a cat? I can imagine that one or two cat owners may take umbrage at their darlings being called vermin, but where gardens are concerned, this is exactly what they are - they serve no purpose unless you like your strawberries covered in it, personally I prefer ice cream. -- http://www.blueyonder256k.myby.co.uk/ |
Gives a pulse of ultrasonic wave at a frequency range of 18k.hertz to 24 k.hertz, the lower part of the spectrum 'just' being audible. 18 - 24 kHz doesn't really strike me as 'ultrasonic' as I'd suspect that many people can hear a fair part of that range. (Although not me anymore. My hearing is now cut off by about 14 kHz.) I have Tinnitus as well, sometimes quite bad, but more often than not, bearable. As far as hearing the unit is concerned, I can hear it and then it goes quet when I 'assume' it is still working but beyond my hearing range. So what *is* the best way to get rid of cats? Well apart from what was done during the War, skin and eat, (they taste like Rabbit), not a lot unless you cover the garden with netting :-(( I'm fairly new to gardening. Only taken it up with any real level of acitivity since I took early retirement last May. Enjoying it so far despite having little real clue what I'm doing. :-) However two doors down the road we have a 'cat lady'. She has an ever-changing population of semi-stray cats. Typically around a dozen to 20. The main victims of this are the neighbours in between her and us. But we also get frequent 'presents' left in the garden. And as I guess you would expect, as I dig and clear areas and plant things, they *love* the nice soft ground... and the owner doesn't give two hoots. However something I did see yesterday which did please me and if it works the same for you, you will be delighted. The neighbours cat was in their own garden, slowly ambling towards the dividing line so I triggered the alarm myself. Cat stopped, twitched its ears, turned round, dug a hole in 'their own garden' and did its business :-))))) In an area around a small apple tree in the back garden I tried covering the ground with cocoa mulch. I like the look and smell of this, and it did seem to put the cats off that area. More recently I worked on a flowbed at the front of the house, and here the cocoa mulch seemed to stop the 'presents' for a few weeks, but they resumed in the last couple of days. Is this, as I suspect, as the smell has gone? The layer of mulch I used at the front is much shallower than around the tree if that makes a significant difference(?) We tried that cocoa mulch, didn't like the smell and if got a grey fur coat after a while :-(( If the 'ultrasound' doesn't work, what does? I don't want to have to stand outside with a machine-gun. Nor do I want to have a dog. Our local garden center has a pot that you buy some sort of crystals to put in. The smell allegedly makes the cats go away. Does this sort of thing work? If not, what?... Don't know, but a report on here on your findins will be well received by those who are bothered by the vermin. BTW does the snake oil also improve the sound of audio systems if you smear it on the cables?... :-) There are no cable to spread anythin on :-( Jim Welcome to the newsgroup Jim and take no notice of those who appear to be the 'owners' of uk.rec.gardening. Its just that they have nothing better to do than take a swipe at postings they do not like. Anti cats is just one of the things which bring them out of the woodwork :-(( No doubt they have a dozen cats themselves, and as cats never leave parcels on their land, they do not see the problem, but treat it as "Not in my back yard" -- |
In article , Mike Lyle
wrote: Jim Lesurf wrote: My first posting in this group. :-) [...] Welcome to the feast! So what *is* the best way to get rid of cats? Water pistol. Alas that also implies I have to be out in both the front and back gardens 24 hours per day. Unless someone makes a 'lawn sprinkler' version of the claymore series of anti-personnel devices? :-) [...] BTW does the snake oil also improve the sound of audio systems if you smear it on the cables?... :-) Absolutely: beyond recognition. You'll need different grades for classical and pop, though: the classical one is a bit more expensive (use classical formula for jazz, of course). Managed to avoid needing it thus far. :-) Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html |
Jim Lesurf wrote:
Your clock is five hours out, you posted this at 14:38 yet it comes up as being sent at 9:08 this morning. -- http://www.blueyonder256k.myby.co.uk/ |
In article , Janet Baraclough
wrote: The message from Jim Lesurf contains these words: My first posting in this group. :-) So what *is* the best way to get rid of cats I'm fairly new to gardening. Only taken it up with any real level of acitivity since I took early retirement last May. Enjoying it so far despite having little real clue what I'm doing. :-) Then let's assume that in future, you would like to discuss gardening with other gardeners in this group. Unfortunately, your first posting is a response to a troll, not a gardener. A troll is a pest-poster who attempts to cause trouble and disrupt the group; and they use this topic very often. To avoid troll timewasters, many posters killfile all threads with "cats" in the title, so will have missed your introductory post. I suggest you start a new thread with a cat-free title and introduce yourself again. We're always glad to have new gardening posters. OK. Points noted. My next topic will probably be about some bulbs or some edging. Hope these will not encounter similar problems. :-) There's a weekly post called abc.for newcomers to uk.rec.gardening to welcome you to the group, full of useful tips how to get the best from it, and a link to the groups FAQ's, one of which answers your question about cats. Thanks. I've only been lurking on this group for a few days. Set my newsagent to go back over the last 50 postings when I started, but haven't yet seen the 'abc'. I'll look for it and check the FAQ's as soon as I find their URLs. Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html |
In article , Mike wrote:
However two doors down the road we have a 'cat lady'. She has an ever-changing population of semi-stray cats. Typically around a dozen to 20. The main victims of this are the neighbours in between her and us. But we also get frequent 'presents' left in the garden. And as I guess you would expect, as I dig and clear areas and plant things, they *love* the nice soft ground... and the owner doesn't give two hoots. Afraid so. :-/ The neightbour in between has formally complained to the local health people more than once as the smell and state of her house and property are pretty dire and he feels it is a serious health problem, etc. [snip] Jim Welcome to the newsgroup Jim and take no notice of those who appear to be the 'owners' of uk.rec.gardening. Its just that they have nothing better to do than take a swipe at postings they do not like. Well if this is a 'done to death' topic covered in the FAQs, etc, then it makes sense for me to read them and take that into account. I suspected it would be a topic on many a gardener's mind... :-) Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html |
In article , Phil L
wrote: Jim Lesurf wrote: Your clock is five hours out, you posted this at 14:38 yet it comes up as being sent at 9:08 this morning. Maybe that's because I wrote it at one time, but actually posted it when I went online later on. Hence both times in the header may be essentially correct for what they represent. What you see will depend to some extent on the software you are using. Also perhaps on the routing and your ISP. However if you look at the headers, a line like "Date:" may indicate when the the item was written. Whereas one like the "NNTP-Posting Date:" may indicate when the item was uploaded/transmitted. If you're using something like 'Hotmail' the difference is minor as the item may be posted as soon as writing ends. However if, like me, you read and write mail/news offline and post at the next connection, then the times may differ by the relevant period. IIRC this is covered in the relevant rfc's, but it is years since I read them, so this is all from my memory. Just checked and the clock on my machine is about 1-2 min fast according to teletext, etc. Both my news agent and my client use the same clock. Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html |
Jim You have been 'net nannied', don't be intimidated. |
Jim Welcome to the newsgroup Jim and take no notice of those who appear to be the 'owners' of uk.rec.gardening. Its just that they have nothing better to do than take a swipe at postings they do not like. Well if this is a 'done to death' topic covered in the FAQs, etc, then it makes sense for me to read them and take that into account. I suspected it would be a topic on many a gardener's mind... :-) Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html Jim, you have been 'net nannied' to the 'n'th degree. The next thing someone will have a go at, is the number of lines in your signature. :-(( Mike -- H.M.S.Collingwood Ass. Llandudno 20 - 23 May Trip to Portmeirion National Service (RAF) Ass. Cosford 24 - 27 June Lanc Bomber Fly Past H.M.S.Impregnable Ass. Sussex 1 - 4 July Visit to Int. Fest of the Sea British Pacific Fleet. Derby 2 - 5 Sept. Visit to Denby Pottery |
In article , Mike
wrote: Jim You have been 'net nannied', don't be intimidated. Don't worry. :-) Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html |
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ... My first posting in this group. :-) In article , suspicious minds wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... Gives a pulse of ultrasonic wave at a frequency range of 18k.hertz to 24 k.hertz, the lower part of the spectrum 'just' being audible. 18 - 24 kHz doesn't really strike me as 'ultrasonic' as I'd suspect that many people can hear a fair part of that range. (Although not me anymore. My hearing is now cut off by about 14 kHz.) One neighbour had one; just audible like tinnitus. However never seemed to bother another neighbours cats near the source. May be just coincidence but something has struck a cord (sorry), since the noise has stopped I have noticed a much bigger variety of birds in garden. So what *is* the best way to get rid of cats? Heard an interesting item on radio recently. With the replacement of binbags by wheelie bins, urban foxes are unable to find enough food from domestic rubbish. Instead, some of the foxes are now catching and eating cats...... Bevan |
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ... In article , Janet Baraclough [snip] OK. Points noted. My next topic will probably be about some bulbs or some edging. Hope these will not encounter similar problems. :-) Ever hopeful {:-)) [snip] Franz |
You have been 'net nannied', don't be intimidated. Don't worry. :-) :-)) |
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My Sister-in-law has the damn things all over her garden. I can hear that high. Walking into a squealing garden is not pleasant, I think I would rather step in all the cat mess the neighbourhood's cats would make in her garden and then trample it into her carpets. Warwick |
On 2005-02-16 15:45:59 +0000, "Mike" said:
The owners and regular readers of this newsgroup should by now know my dislike for the above vermin and will be very interested to know that a Cat and Dog Repeller we have just put into use, seems to be working very well. I just got a dog and don't, obviously, want to deter her. Actually, I think I might train her to go and do her business in next door's garden to make up for all the times I've put my hand in cat poo during gardening sessions because of her bloody horrible tail-less murdering cat. When I removed my sweet pea canes late last summer I found no less than 10 dead birds including a young robin I'd been encouraging to eat from my hand. That made me so angry I bought a cat repellent called 'Cat Watch'. It's recommended by the RSPB who use it extensively in areas where they have ground nesting birds and a ferral cat problem. I was sceptical at first, but it is brilliant. AND, you can't hear it at all. It's set at a level that humans can't hear. A ight comes on when it detects movement (and it's very efficient) so you know it's working. Anyway, a couple of days after I put it in the garden I was bird-watching from the bathroom window (my 'loo with a view') when the hated animal jumped over the wall and took a few steps into my garden (past the useless lion dung I had put there). Then you could almost see its hair standing on end and it turned around and beat a pretty hasty retreat, much to my enjoyment. It has since not come anywhere near my garden and sits on the neighbours fence instead. Why is it, by the way, that if my dog fouls someone's garden they will get very angry with me but I'm supposed to find it acceptable that someone else's cat or cats can crap all over my garden, kill 'my' toads, frogs, birds, fieldmice - and those adorable little things with the long snouts whose name escapes me for a second - and leave the remains for me to find and I'm supposed to find that acceptable? No-one should be allowed more than one cat. AND, they should be licensed. And they say foxes are vermin! I say if the huntsmen have got nothing to do, let them hunt cats! But if that were the case, of course, hunting with dogs would have been banned a long time ago... Sorry not to have introduced myself but actually I've been posting on and off on this group for a long time. I'm amused to see the same nannying going on... Jane. |
"Jane" wrote in message ... On 2005-02-16 15:45:59 +0000, "Mike" said: The owners and regular readers of this newsgroup should by now know my dislike for the above vermin and will be very interested to know that a Cat and Dog Repeller we have just put into use, seems to be working very well. I just got a dog and don't, obviously, want to deter her. Actually, I think I might train her to go and do her business in next door's garden to make up for all the times I've put my hand in cat poo during gardening sessions because of her bloody horrible tail-less murdering cat. When I removed my sweet pea canes late last summer I found no less than 10 dead birds including a young robin I'd been encouraging to eat from my hand. That made me so angry I bought a cat repellent called 'Cat Watch'. It's recommended by the RSPB who use it extensively in areas where they have ground nesting birds and a ferral cat problem. I was sceptical at first, but it is brilliant. AND, you can't hear it at all. It's set at a level that humans can't hear. A ight comes on when it detects movement (and it's very efficient) so you know it's working. Got a URL? And do they do an option with a shotgun attachment? -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
Got a URL? And do they do an option with a shotgun attachment? I saw the other day that the skins make nice slippers, so don't pepper them with shot!! Warm and cosy on your feet whilst you have made a nice 'rabbit' pie to get your 'inside' nice and cosy :-)) |
"Mike" wrote in message ... Does it seem to be affecting anything else? I'd like to discourage the cats but don't want to upset the hedgehogs, bats or birds. -- Just seen a Blackbird quite happy about 3 metres away from it :-)) Bloody cats. Should all be drowned at birth. When I was small and the female cats used to have two or more litters every year, this is exactly what we used to do, not right at birth as the mother had to feed them for a few weeks, but once they had been weaned then into the bucket they went! alan reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net |
"Alan Holmes" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote in message ... Does it seem to be affecting anything else? I'd like to discourage the cats but don't want to upset the hedgehogs, bats or birds. -- Just seen a Blackbird quite happy about 3 metres away from it :-)) Bloody cats. Should all be drowned at birth. When I was small and the female cats used to have two or more litters every year, this is exactly what we used to do, not right at birth as the mother had to feed them for a few weeks, but once they had been weaned then into the bucket they went! alan reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net If you have to kill an animal, drowning is a particularly cruel method. It is much kinder to knock it out with a single hard blow from a hammer (so that it doesn't see it coming) and then chop its head off quickly. |
"Alan Holmes" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote in message ... Does it seem to be affecting anything else? I'd like to discourage the cats but don't want to upset the hedgehogs, bats or birds. -- Just seen a Blackbird quite happy about 3 metres away from it :-)) Bloody cats. Should all be drowned at birth. When I was small and the female cats used to have two or more litters every year, this is exactly what we used to do, not right at birth as the mother had to feed them for a few weeks, but once they had been weaned then into the bucket they went! That has to be about the most cruel way to kill them. They are fully developed, have their eyes open and are moving about. Apart from the fact that it is illegal. At least the morons who do it immediately, cause less suffering to the kittens. Spaying is an option. |
"Duncan Heenan" wrote in message ... "Alan Holmes" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote in message ... Does it seem to be affecting anything else? I'd like to discourage the cats but don't want to upset the hedgehogs, bats or birds. -- Just seen a Blackbird quite happy about 3 metres away from it :-)) Bloody cats. Should all be drowned at birth. When I was small and the female cats used to have two or more litters every year, this is exactly what we used to do, not right at birth as the mother had to feed them for a few weeks, but once they had been weaned then into the bucket they went! alan reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net If you have to kill an animal, drowning is a particularly cruel method. It is much kinder to knock it out with a single hard blow from a hammer (so that it doesn't see it coming) and then chop its head off quickly. That may be obvious to you and I but some people are of particularly low intelligence as in the case of the OP's parents obviously. |
SNIP If you have to kill an animal, drowning is a particularly cruel method. It is much kinder to knock it out with a single hard blow from a hammer (so that it doesn't see it coming) and then chop its head off quickly. Although this method is somewhat difficult in the case of Thompson's gazelle. They are much too fast for that, and Thompson gets really angry. Steve |
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