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JennyC 16-04-2005 10:32 AM

Risk of frost?
 

I'm wondering whether to start putting my container plants outside yet ..

And also whether I can start to plant out seedlings that are taking of with a
vengeance after all the nice weather we have had in the last few weeks......

I have masses of stuff and can hardly get into the GH ATM !

I know I should wait till May but seeing as I live in the city it is always
fairly sheltered here, so I think I might get away with it!

Any thoughts ??

Jenny
(Rotterdam the Netherlands)




GeoffH 16-04-2005 10:47 AM

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:32:28 +0200, "JennyC" wrote:

Jenny,
I'm wondering whether to start putting my container plants outside yet ..

I wait till end May beginning June.
Put some out a couple of years ago mid May and we had a week of -5C so
you can imagine what happened to the plants :-(

And also whether I can start to plant out seedlings that are taking of with a
vengeance after all the nice weather we have had in the last few weeks......

I'm leaving mine in the greenhouse until above.
Once bitten etc

I have masses of stuff and can hardly get into the GH ATM !

Any empty shelves inside?

I know I should wait till May but seeing as I live in the city it is always
fairly sheltered here, so I think I might get away with it!

Ah now you could just get away with it.
I'm in Norfolk so I wouldn't chance it.

(Rotterdam the Netherlands)

Could you still get a blast from Siberia or Scandinavia?
GeoffH

JennyC 16-04-2005 10:56 AM


"GeoffH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:32:28 +0200, "JennyC" wrote:

Jenny,
I'm wondering whether to start putting my container plants outside yet ..

I wait till end May beginning June.


Aagggghh - we go on holiday in May, so they will HAVE to go out before then :~)

Put some out a couple of years ago mid May and we had a week of -5C so
you can imagine what happened to the plants :-(

And also whether I can start to plant out seedlings that are taking of with a
vengeance after all the nice weather we have had in the last few weeks......

I'm leaving mine in the greenhouse until above.
Once bitten etc

I have masses of stuff and can hardly get into the GH ATM !

Any empty shelves inside?


Nope!

I know I should wait till May but seeing as I live in the city it is always
fairly sheltered here, so I think I might get away with it!

Ah now you could just get away with it.
I'm in Norfolk so I wouldn't chance it.

(Rotterdam the Netherlands)

Could you still get a blast from Siberia or Scandinavia?
GeoffH


There is always the chance of frost of course, but with the global warming going
on I seem to feel the climate is becoming warmer/wetter anyway.

jenny



[email protected] 16-04-2005 11:08 AM

Had a standard fuchsia out for two weeks now, in a sheltered postion,
but we have had a couple of cold nights, and it is still very much OK.


Bob Hobden 16-04-2005 05:29 PM


mike wrote ...
Had a standard fuchsia out for two weeks now, in a sheltered postion,
but we have had a couple of cold nights, and it is still very much OK.


Was told this morning by an early rising neighbour that we had a frost this
morning, at least his windscreen was iced. According to the weather forecast
the temp was only going down to 4 or 5°C last night so there seems to be
something awry.
Luckily our citrus and a few fuchsias that have been out all winter are
still OK.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London



Sacha 16-04-2005 06:37 PM

On 16/4/05 10:32, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


I'm wondering whether to start putting my container plants outside yet ..

And also whether I can start to plant out seedlings that are taking of with a
vengeance after all the nice weather we have had in the last few weeks......

I have masses of stuff and can hardly get into the GH ATM !

I know I should wait till May but seeing as I live in the city it is always
fairly sheltered here, so I think I might get away with it!

Any thoughts ??

-2 is forecast for us tonight in South Devon's South Hams. Your risk! ;-(
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Klara 16-04-2005 07:01 PM

In message , Sacha
writes
I know I should wait till May but seeing as I live in the city it is always
fairly sheltered here, so I think I might get away with it!

Any thoughts ??

-2 is forecast for us tonight in South Devon's South Hams. Your risk!
;-(
--

It seems to depend on which forecast you follow, but 0 is forecast for
us tonight, and -3 tomorrow, by the BBC...

--
Klara, Gatwick basin

Nick Maclaren 16-04-2005 07:07 PM

In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:

mike wrote ...
Had a standard fuchsia out for two weeks now, in a sheltered postion,
but we have had a couple of cold nights, and it is still very much OK.


Fuschias are fairly hardy.

Was told this morning by an early rising neighbour that we had a frost this
morning, at least his windscreen was iced. According to the weather forecast
the temp was only going down to 4 or 5°C last night so there seems to be
something awry.


Not at all. Frosts in April are normal for most of the UK, and so
are weather forecasts getting it wrong.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

JennyC 16-04-2005 08:51 PM


"Klara" wrote in message
...
In message , Sacha
writes
I know I should wait till May but seeing as I live in the city it is always
fairly sheltered here, so I think I might get away with it!

Any thoughts ??

-2 is forecast for us tonight in South Devon's South Hams. Your risk!
;-(
--

It seems to depend on which forecast you follow, but 0 is forecast for
us tonight, and -3 tomorrow, by the BBC...
Klara, Gatwick basin


Yikes!!!
+7 to 8 forecasted here tonight :~)
Jenny



Mike Lyle 16-04-2005 09:25 PM

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:

mike wrote ...
Had a standard fuchsia out for two weeks now, in a sheltered
postion, but we have had a couple of cold nights, and it is still
very much OK.


Fuschias are fairly hardy.

Was told this morning by an early rising neighbour that we had a
frost this morning, at least his windscreen was iced. According to
the weather forecast the temp was only going down to 4 or 5°C last
night so there seems to be something awry.


Not at all. Frosts in April are normal for most of the UK, and so
are weather forecasts getting it wrong.


Has anybody tested the claimed frost-defending properties of
seaweed-extract sprays?

--
Mike.



Klara 17-04-2005 08:56 AM

In message , JennyC
writes
-2 is forecast for us tonight in South Devon's South Hams. Your risk!
;-(
--

It seems to depend on which forecast you follow, but 0 is forecast for
us tonight, and -3 tomorrow, by the BBC...
Klara, Gatwick basin


Yikes!!!
+7 to 8 forecasted here tonight :~) Jenny


The problem isn't that frosts are later - as Nick says, April frosts are
normal. It's that many plants come into bud much earlier, and so are
susceptible to them. In our 30 years here, for the first 20 we had
lovely wisteria blossom. In the last 10, only once, and we've lost them
again this year. :-((( Should have hung a sheet over them somehow....

--
Klara, Gatwick basin

Rod 17-04-2005 01:49 PM

On 16 Apr 2005 18:07:31 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:


Not at all. Frosts in April are normal for most of the UK, and so
are weather forecasts getting it wrong.

As are ground frosts at above ground air temperatures a little above
0C. Here if we see +3 or lower on our thermometers near the house we
will see groundfrost in known frosty spots a few metres away.
It went down to +2C last night but luckily the early spuds aren't in a
bad place for frost - they're untouched.
I think I was a bit hasty putting some of our bedding into the cold
house - for the same reason as Jenny, we were running out of room in
the heated house. They're a bit checked but will be OK when it warms
up.

=================================================

Rod

Weed my email address to reply.
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

shazzbat 17-04-2005 10:24 PM


"Klara" wrote in message
...
In message , JennyC
writes
-2 is forecast for us tonight in South Devon's South Hams. Your risk!
;-(
--
It seems to depend on which forecast you follow, but 0 is forecast for
us tonight, and -3 tomorrow, by the BBC...
Klara, Gatwick basin


Yikes!!!
+7 to 8 forecasted here tonight :~) Jenny


We had a sharp frost this morning in BH22, and later we went to a car boot
sale and saw loads of plants sagging sadly, obviously frosted, possibly at
the car boot since many stall holders were there from 0600 or even earlier,
it was still frosty then. We also saw loads of people buying trays of
bedding and I earned myself a black look from one of the sellers when I
mentioned to a buyer that they would become victims also.

A week or so ago we had our first earlies showing by about an inch or so at
the allotment, and then we went down there again and there had obviously
been a frost which had turned their tops brown, although there had not been
a frost at home only 2 miles away.

And why is it that now we've had a wicked frost here now, the potatoes which
have sprung up in the compost are just fine, are they immune or something?

Steve



Klara 17-04-2005 10:46 PM

In message , Rod
writes
As are ground frosts at above ground air temperatures a little above
0C. Here if we see +3 or lower on our thermometers near the house we
will see groundfrost in known frosty spots a few metres away. It went
down to +2C last night but luckily the early spuds aren't in a bad
place for frost - they're untouched. I think I was a bit hasty putting
some of our bedding into the cold house - for the same reason as Jenny,
we were running out of room in the heated house. They're a bit checked
but will be OK when it warms up.


Just checked: -4 forecast for here for tonight, -1 for tomorrow ...

--
Klara, Gatwick basin


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