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gasdoctor 20-04-2005 12:14 AM

Scented Climber
 
I have a small south facing wall (its my shed) its very sheltered and only gets full sun in the middle part of the day, next to it is my compost bin.
I would like to grow a scented climber to disguise any smells that the bin may make and be attaractive etc.
I was going to choose jasmine (officinale) but it seems it very hard to grow.

Any suggestions or advice?

Cheers

Robert 20-04-2005 07:59 AM


"gasdoctor" wrote in message
...
:
: I have a small south facing wall (its my shed) its very sheltered and
: only gets full sun in the middle part of the day, next to it is my
: compost bin.
: I would like to grow a scented climber to disguise any smells that the
: bin may make and be attaractive etc.
: I was going to choose jasmine (officinale) but it seems it very hard to
: grow.
:
: Any suggestions or advice?
:
: Cheers
:

What about honeysuckle?
: gasdoctor




Charlie Pridham 20-04-2005 08:00 AM


"gasdoctor" wrote in message
...

I have a small south facing wall (its my shed) its very sheltered and
only gets full sun in the middle part of the day, next to it is my
compost bin.
I would like to grow a scented climber to disguise any smells that the
bin may make and be attaractive etc.
I was going to choose jasmine (officinale) but it seems it very hard to
grow.

Any suggestions or advice?

Cheers
--
gasdoctor


Jasmine is not hard to grow but it can sometimes be hard to get it to
flower, try an ordinary honeysuckle, Lonicera periclymenum, the variety
Sweet Sue is a nice compact and bushy plant. However I suspect you won't
need either as your compost heap shouldn't smell :~)

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Duncan Heenan 20-04-2005 08:41 AM


"gasdoctor" wrote in message
...

I have a small south facing wall (its my shed) its very sheltered and
only gets full sun in the middle part of the day, next to it is my
compost bin.
I would like to grow a scented climber to disguise any smells that the
bin may make and be attaractive etc.
I was going to choose jasmine (officinale) but it seems it very hard to
grow.

Any suggestions or advice?

Cheers


--
gasdoctor


Honeysuckle is surprisingly easy to grow, pretty, and the smell is pure
bliss.



Janet Tweedy 20-04-2005 12:21 PM

In article , Charlie
Pridham writes

Jasmine is not hard to grow but it can sometimes be hard to get it to
flower, try an ordinary honeysuckle, Lonicera periclymenum, the variety
Sweet Sue is a nice compact and bushy plant. However I suspect you won't
need either as your compost heap shouldn't smell :~)




Charlie, I have three jasmine's , officinale, stephanese and a
variegated one. They all flower and are scented though you really can't
trim them or prune them in anyway without a loss of flower! The
variegated one has such pretty leaves that actually it's acceptable
without flowers :)

The main thing that I find difficult ids that unless it's grown over an
arch or pergola the growth is very upright and it has to be fairly
rigorously tied back or it goes berserk! The scent from officinale is
very strong though some visitors actually don't like the smell. The
stephanese and the variegated plant aren't quite so scented.


Thinking of taking two of mine out (the ones against the walls) and
replacing with clematis !
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Charlie Pridham 21-04-2005 08:21 AM


"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , Charlie
Pridham writes

Jasmine is not hard to grow but it can sometimes be hard to get it to
flower, try an ordinary honeysuckle, Lonicera periclymenum, the variety
Sweet Sue is a nice compact and bushy plant. However I suspect you won't
need either as your compost heap shouldn't smell :~)




Charlie, I have three jasmine's , officinale, stephanese and a
variegated one. They all flower and are scented though you really can't
trim them or prune them in anyway without a loss of flower! The
variegated one has such pretty leaves that actually it's acceptable
without flowers :)

The main thing that I find difficult ids that unless it's grown over an
arch or pergola the growth is very upright and it has to be fairly
rigorously tied back or it goes berserk! The scent from officinale is
very strong though some visitors actually don't like the smell. The
stephanese and the variegated plant aren't quite so scented.


Thinking of taking two of mine out (the ones against the walls) and
replacing with clematis !
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


Yes its the fighting for control, the constant cutting back that effects the
flowering, my officinal 'Affine' flowers well as does stephanense but they
certainly occupy their space (although I grow clematis in them so I shant be
ripping them out just yet!)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Nick Maclaren 21-04-2005 04:18 PM


In article ,
"Charlie Pridham" writes:
|
| Yes its the fighting for control, the constant cutting back that effects the
| flowering, my officinal 'Affine' flowers well as does stephanense but they
| certainly occupy their space (although I grow clematis in them so I shant be
| ripping them out just yet!)

What sort of growth does J. officinale flower on? Too much pruning
could have been my problem, so I should like to know how to do it.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

gasdoctor 21-04-2005 10:10 PM

Seems Jasmine is out (shame)

I always thought honeysuckle was extremely vigoruos.

Honeysucle should be easy to find, though I did fancy something bit different.

Cheers

Ed

Charlie Pridham 22-04-2005 08:56 AM


"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"Charlie Pridham" writes:
|
| Yes its the fighting for control, the constant cutting back that

effects the
| flowering, my officinal 'Affine' flowers well as does stephanense but

they
| certainly occupy their space (although I grow clematis in them so I

shant be
| ripping them out just yet!)

What sort of growth does J. officinale flower on? Too much pruning
could have been my problem, so I should like to know how to do it.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Well I made the classic mistake of planting officinal too close to a path!
but this is what I do. I leave around 2' of new growth on each green stem in
winter, I also remove completely some old brown wood lower down (otherwise
there is a steady build up), but will admit the most flowers are nearly
always on the bits that haven't needed cutting back!
The stephanese flowers its socks off because it is over an arch and can be
just left alone.
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Kay 22-04-2005 09:25 AM

In article , gasdoctor gasdoctor.1
writes


Honeysucle should be easy to find, though I did fancy something bit
different.

There are lots of different species and varieties of Lonicera
(honeysuckle) - search around and find yourself one a bit out of the
ordinary. Buy when in flower so you can check the scent - they're not
all scented.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Tiger303 22-04-2005 09:40 AM

Janet,

I've bought an jasmin officinale argenteovariegatum last year and when it flowered late june/july it was lovely, but the flowering period was quite short and someone correctly or incorrectly told me with regular feeding you can keep the flowring for the rest of the summer.

Whats your view on this? is it a bit like greedy clemtais give a good bonmeal feed at start of season and then a tomato liquid feed every two weeks?

thanks 4 your help!

Matt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janet Tweedy
Charlie, I have three jasmine's , officinale, stephanese and a
variegated one. They all flower and are scented though you really can't
trim them or prune them in anyway without a loss of flower! The
variegated one has such pretty leaves that actually it's acceptable
without flowers :)

The main thing that I find difficult ids that unless it's grown over an
arch or pergola the growth is very upright and it has to be fairly
rigorously tied back or it goes berserk! The scent from officinale is
very strong though some visitors actually don't like the smell. The
stephanese and the variegated plant aren't quite so scented.


Nick Maclaren 22-04-2005 12:10 PM


In article ,
"Charlie Pridham" writes:
|
| Well I made the classic mistake of planting officinal too close to a path!
| but this is what I do. I leave around 2' of new growth on each green stem in
| winter, I also remove completely some old brown wood lower down (otherwise
| there is a steady build up), but will admit the most flowers are nearly
| always on the bits that haven't needed cutting back!

Thanks. I will try that.

Nick.

Janet Tweedy 23-04-2005 10:57 AM

In article , Tiger303
writes

Janet,

I've bought an jasmin officinale argenteovariegatum last year and when
it flowered late june/july it was lovely, but the flowering period was
quite short and someone correctly or incorrectly told me with regular
feeding you can keep the flowring for the rest of the summer.

Whats your view on this? is it a bit like greedy clemtais give a good
bonmeal feed at start of season and then a tomato liquid feed every two
weeks?

thanks 4 your help!

Matt



Well feeding helps but only on the amount of growth etc. The flowers
won't last any longer though mine last at least a few weeks so not sure
whether you think that's short or not. You could combine it with another
climber but generally jasmine is quite twiggy and getting anything else
in amongst the growth would be tricky!

Stephanese is much more lax but mine doesn't have the same impact as the
officinale mainly because the perfume from the officinale knocks your
socks off from about 50 feet away.
Janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk


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