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Dark north facing garden wall
Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot
stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so presumably has a high clay content, as you'd expect in North London. Ken Cohen |
"ken cohen" wrote in message om... Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so presumably has a high clay content, as you'd expect in North London. Ken Cohen Parthenocissus henryana, or Hedera helix 'Golden Esther' Lonicera periclymenum, most clematis and some rambling roses. -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs) |
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ken cohen wrote: Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so presumably has a high clay content, as you'd expect in North London. Non-variegated ivy, or nothing. Sorry. If it is genuinely north facing, it will get NO direct sunlight, and adding shade to that is bad news indeed. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so presumably has a high clay content, as you'd expect in North London. Ken Cohen try Hydrangea anomola subsp petiolaris with lots of organinc material to lighten the soil. pk |
"ken cohen" wrote in message om... Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so I've just planted some gunnera and fatsia japonica in a similar though sheltered place-I dont think the big leaves like direct sun. A few other plants may well survive but getting them established will be the hard part. |
"spakker" wrote in message ... "ken cohen" wrote in message om... Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so I've just planted some gunnera and fatsia japonica in a similar though sheltered place-I dont think the big leaves like direct sun. A few other plants may well survive but getting them established will be the hard part. I've managed to grow a pyrocantha on one such place. It's slow but gets there. |
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about 5 of them would cover the distance probably reduced to 3 over time . |
In article , "Duncan Heenan" writes: | "spakker" wrote in message | ... | "ken cohen" wrote in message | om... | | Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot | stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't | get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so | presumably has a high clay content, as you'd expect in North London. | | I've just planted some gunnera and fatsia japonica in a similar though | sheltered place-I dont think the big leaves like direct sun. A few other | plants may well survive but getting them established will be the hard | part. | | I've managed to grow a pyrocantha on one such place. It's slow but gets | there. I think that there are a lot of cross-purposes postings on this thread. If the north wall really IS "very shaded" by north wall standards in London, I stand by my remark "non-variegated ivy, or nothing" as far as climbers go (and there aren't many non-climbers that are suitable). However, if it is less shaded, I agree that there are a lot more options. No north wall in the UK gets ANY sunlight, so that doesn't clarify anything, but does hint that it might not be as dark as I was assuming. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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In article , "Duncan Heenan" writes: | "spakker" wrote in message | ... | "ken cohen" wrote in message | om... | | Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot | stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't | get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so | presumably has a high clay content, as you'd expect in North London. | | I've just planted some gunnera and fatsia japonica in a similar though | sheltered place-I dont think the big leaves like direct sun. A few other | plants may well survive but getting them established will be the hard | part. | | I've managed to grow a pyrocantha on one such place. It's slow but gets | there. I think that there are a lot of cross-purposes postings on this thread. If the north wall really IS "very shaded" by north wall standards in London, I stand by my remark "non-variegated ivy, or nothing" as far as climbers go (and there aren't many non-climbers that are suitable). However, if it is less shaded, I agree that there are a lot more options. No north wall in the UK gets ANY sunlight, so that doesn't clarify anything, but does hint that it might not be as dark as I was assuming. well, in June, you could have quite a lot of sunlight in early morning or late afternoon on a true North-facing wall?? I agree with Hydrangea petiolaris. I have grown it sucessfully on a wall which truly never get any sun at all. Philippe |
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writes Any suggestions for I might try to grow along a very shaded 15 foot stretch of north- facing garden wall (about 6 foot high) which doesn't get much direct sunlight? The soil seems very heavy and clumpy, so presumably has a high clay content, as you'd expect in North London. The 'Plants in shade' FAQ has lots of suggestions, and originated from experience of growing in exactly this situation. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Are there any vegetables that
might flourish in these conditions? Ken Cohen |
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ken cohen wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Are there any vegetables that might flourish in these conditions? Mushrooms. All 'normal' vegetables need light for photosynthesis - it is dark enough in this country in open locations, and dark ones are quite hopeless. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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