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Sacha 26-04-2005 10:34 PM

On 26/4/05 22:36, in article , "Ken Maughan"
wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant ( Not
seeds as there's quite a few cats around here and they LOVE my soil.). My
garden is north-facing, backs onto an old railway bank with dark blue-grey
clay soil (although I've added a few trailers of topsoil to help). The slope
if fairly steep approx a 1 in 3 incline and 20 ft by 11ft in size, and
there's a sycamore tree to one side shading half the garden.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Thanks in anticipation

Vinca. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Ken Maughan 26-04-2005 10:36 PM

Ground cover
 
Hi,
Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant ( Not
seeds as there's quite a few cats around here and they LOVE my soil.). My
garden is north-facing, backs onto an old railway bank with dark blue-grey
clay soil (although I've added a few trailers of topsoil to help). The slope
if fairly steep approx a 1 in 3 incline and 20 ft by 11ft in size, and
there's a sycamore tree to one side shading half the garden.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Thanks in anticipation
Ken



Derek Turner 26-04-2005 10:48 PM

Ken Maughan wrote:
Hi,
Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant ( Not
seeds as there's quite a few cats around here and they LOVE my soil.). My
garden is north-facing, backs onto an old railway bank with dark blue-grey
clay soil (although I've added a few trailers of topsoil to help). The slope
if fairly steep approx a 1 in 3 incline and 20 ft by 11ft in size, and
there's a sycamore tree to one side shading half the garden.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Thanks in anticipation
Ken


Vinca minor : the lesser periwinkle

Charlie Pridham 27-04-2005 08:43 AM


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 26/4/05 22:36, in article , "Ken

Maughan"
wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant ( Not
seeds as there's quite a few cats around here and they LOVE my soil.).

My
garden is north-facing, backs onto an old railway bank with dark

blue-grey
clay soil (although I've added a few trailers of topsoil to help). The

slope
if fairly steep approx a 1 in 3 incline and 20 ft by 11ft in size, and
there's a sycamore tree to one side shading half the garden.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Thanks in anticipation

Vinca. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Symphytum grandiflorum, Geranium maccrorhizzum, Geranium 'Claridge Druce'
Lamium (cant remember the second name - we call it the Hobgoblin!) Viola

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Nick Maclaren 27-04-2005 09:23 AM

In article ,
Derek Turner somewhat@odds wrote:
Ken Maughan wrote:

Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant ...

Vinca minor : the lesser periwinkle


Vinca major eats Vinca minor for breakfast :-) It's not too hard to
keep under control - while it layers in everywhere, it is very shallow
rooted and will not regrow from roots alone. I grow the variety
"oxyloba" (perhaps a geographical variant), which has star-shaped,
deep purple flowers, lighter, less glossy and more pointed leaves,
and is marginally less ambitious. Anyone who wants some is welcome
to drop round.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Spider 27-04-2005 11:53 AM


Charlie Pridham wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 26/4/05 22:36, in article , "Ken

Maughan"
wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant

Not
seeds as there's quite a few cats around here and they LOVE my soil.).

My
garden is north-facing, backs onto an old railway bank with dark

blue-grey
clay soil (although I've added a few trailers of topsoil to help). The

slope
if fairly steep approx a 1 in 3 incline and 20 ft by 11ft in size, and
there's a sycamore tree to one side shading half the garden.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Thanks in anticipation

Vinca. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Symphytum grandiflorum, Geranium maccrorhizzum, Geranium 'Claridge Druce'
Lamium (cant remember the second name - we call it the Hobgoblin!) Viola

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)


Charlie,
I imagine you mean Lamium galeobdolon, the Yellow Archangel. Love the
Hobgoblin tag, though!.
Spider



Sacha 27-04-2005 11:56 AM

On 27/4/05 11:53, in article ,
"Spider" wrote:

snip
Charlie,
I imagine you mean Lamium galeobdolon, the Yellow Archangel. Love the
Hobgoblin tag, though!.
Spider

We have a variegated Lamium with bright pink flowers but have never known
the name of it as it was given to Ray. It's very dramatic and will take
deep shade and if anyone knows the name, we'd be very grateful!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)



pammyT 27-04-2005 12:10 PM


"Spider" wrote in message
...

Charlie Pridham wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 26/4/05 22:36, in article , "Ken

Maughan"
wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant

Not
seeds as there's quite a few cats around here and they LOVE my

soil.).
My
garden is north-facing, backs onto an old railway bank with dark

blue-grey
clay soil (although I've added a few trailers of topsoil to help).

The
slope
if fairly steep approx a 1 in 3 incline and 20 ft by 11ft in size,

and
there's a sycamore tree to one side shading half the garden.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Thanks in anticipation

Vinca. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Symphytum grandiflorum, Geranium maccrorhizzum, Geranium 'Claridge

Druce'
Lamium (cant remember the second name - we call it the Hobgoblin!) Viola

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)


Charlie,
I imagine you mean Lamium galeobdolon, the Yellow Archangel. Love the
Hobgoblin tag, though!.
Spider


WHen I saw the correct name I thought hobgoblin was really funny.
I think it *should* be known as lamium hobgoblin :0)



Derek Turner 27-04-2005 01:53 PM

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Derek Turner somewhat@odds wrote:

Ken Maughan wrote:

Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant ...


Vinca minor : the lesser periwinkle



Vinca major eats Vinca minor for breakfast :-) It's not too hard to
keep under control - while it layers in everywhere, it is very shallow
rooted and will not regrow from roots alone. I grow the variety
"oxyloba" (perhaps a geographical variant), which has star-shaped,
deep purple flowers, lighter, less glossy and more pointed leaves,
and is marginally less ambitious. Anyone who wants some is welcome
to drop round.


I grow both and agree that major is more vigorous, it's just that the OP
asked about ground cover and in my limited experience minor stays closer
to the ground while major is more of a 'shrub', given half a chance.

Nick Maclaren 27-04-2005 02:28 PM


In article ,
Derek Turner somewhat@odds writes:
|
| I grow both and agree that major is more vigorous, it's just that the OP
| asked about ground cover and in my limited experience minor stays closer
| to the ground while major is more of a 'shrub', given half a chance.

Oh, yes, but it assuredly covers the ground - in the other sense
as well :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

BAC 27-04-2005 02:39 PM


"Derek Turner" somewhat@odds wrote in message
...
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Derek Turner somewhat@odds wrote:

Ken Maughan wrote:

Can anyone suggest a quick-growing, flowering, ground cover plant ...


Vinca minor : the lesser periwinkle



Vinca major eats Vinca minor for breakfast :-) It's not too hard to
keep under control - while it layers in everywhere, it is very shallow
rooted and will not regrow from roots alone. I grow the variety
"oxyloba" (perhaps a geographical variant), which has star-shaped,
deep purple flowers, lighter, less glossy and more pointed leaves,
and is marginally less ambitious. Anyone who wants some is welcome
to drop round.


I grow both and agree that major is more vigorous, it's just that the OP
asked about ground cover and in my limited experience minor stays closer
to the ground while major is more of a 'shrub', given half a chance.


Minor does stay closer to the ground than major (guess that's why it's
called minor!). Either of them does a good job of ground cover, in my
experience, especially if you want something which will do the trick in a
partially or fully shaded location, but which won't climb the trees which
are providing the shade.



Nick Maclaren 27-04-2005 03:03 PM


In article ,
"BAC" writes:
|
| Minor does stay closer to the ground than major (guess that's why it's
| called minor!). Either of them does a good job of ground cover, in my
| experience, especially if you want something which will do the trick in a
| partially or fully shaded location, but which won't climb the trees which
| are providing the shade.

Major will climb small shrubs.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

BAC 27-04-2005 03:41 PM


"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"BAC" writes:
|
| Minor does stay closer to the ground than major (guess that's why it's
| called minor!). Either of them does a good job of ground cover, in my
| experience, especially if you want something which will do the trick in

a
| partially or fully shaded location, but which won't climb the trees

which
| are providing the shade.

Major will climb small shrubs.


Looking out the window - so it will, but not, here at least, trees :-)



Sue Begg 27-04-2005 04:09 PM

In message , BAC
writes

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"BAC" writes:
|
| Minor does stay closer to the ground than major (guess that's why it's
| called minor!). Either of them does a good job of ground cover, in my
| experience, especially if you want something which will do the trick in

a
| partially or fully shaded location, but which won't climb the trees

which
| are providing the shade.

Major will climb small shrubs.


Looking out the window - so it will, but not, here at least, trees :-)


The only problem that I have found with Vinca Minor is that it can be
very difficult to weed the buttercups and couch grass from amongst it. A
membrane stops it from running across the ground and rooting so it can
spread. I like it and have 4 different varieties - blue, purply/maroon,
white flowers and one with variegated leaves. I personally just put up
with most of the weeds and pull out the most obvious ones.
--
Sue Begg
Remove my clothes to reply

Do not mess in the affairs of dragons - for
you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Charlie Pridham 27-04-2005 07:16 PM


"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"BAC" writes:
|
| Minor does stay closer to the ground than major (guess that's why it's
| called minor!). Either of them does a good job of ground cover, in my
| experience, especially if you want something which will do the trick in

a
| partially or fully shaded location, but which won't climb the trees

which
| are providing the shade.

Major will climb small shrubs.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

My Vinca major 'Alba is 15' into a quince tree and I have to take the
strimmer to it when it blocks the gateway, its flowering at present (when
all is forgiven!)

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)




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