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Pam Moore 09-05-2005 04:29 PM

Clematis gunge
 
My daughter is developing a really lovely garden, in which everything
seems to be doing well. (Gloucestershire)
However, a clematis montana which she planted 2 years ago to cover a
shed, started off well this year and then gradually died back. This
weekend she decided to remove it. She found that the bottom 12 inches
of the stem was covered in "gunge". She described it as "snotty", I
more politely said it looked like thick creamy wallpaper paste. It was
definitely oozing out of the stem, not deposited on it.
1. What is it? I've never heard of c. wilt causing this.
2. Can she replant if she removes some soil?
3. Is it worth sterilsing the soil with Armillatox or something?
She's waiting for the expert advice I said Urglers would come up with!
TIA


Pam in Bristol

Emrys Davies 09-05-2005 06:45 PM

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
My daughter is developing a really lovely garden, in which everything
seems to be doing well. (Gloucestershire)
However, a clematis montana which she planted 2 years ago to cover a
shed, started off well this year and then gradually died back. This
weekend she decided to remove it. She found that the bottom 12 inches
of the stem was covered in "gunge". She described it as "snotty", I
more politely said it looked like thick creamy wallpaper paste. It was
definitely oozing out of the stem, not deposited on it.
1. What is it? I've never heard of c. wilt causing this.
2. Can she replant if she removes some soil?
3. Is it worth sterilsing the soil with Armillatox or something?
She's waiting for the expert advice I said Urglers would come up with!
TIA


Pam in Bristol


Crown gall can infect clematis. These sites describe it and show
photos. of it. Are there similarities?

http://www.ipm.uiuc.edu/diseases/series1000/rpd1006/

http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/cropprot/tfipm/crowngall.htm

http://grapes.msu.edu/crowngall.htm

Regards,
Emrys Davies.



Pam Moore 09-05-2005 07:19 PM

On Mon, 9 May 2005 18:45:32 +0100, "Emrys Davies"
wrote:

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
.. .
My daughter is developing a really lovely garden, in which everything
seems to be doing well. (Gloucestershire)
However, a clematis montana which she planted 2 years ago to cover a
shed, started off well this year and then gradually died back. This
weekend she decided to remove it. She found that the bottom 12 inches
of the stem was covered in "gunge". She described it as "snotty", I
more politely said it looked like thick creamy wallpaper paste. It was
definitely oozing out of the stem, not deposited on it.
1. What is it? I've never heard of c. wilt causing this.
2. Can she replant if she removes some soil?
3. Is it worth sterilsing the soil with Armillatox or something?
She's waiting for the expert advice I said Urglers would come up with!
TIA


Pam in Bristol


Crown gall can infect clematis. These sites describe it and show
photos. of it. Are there similarities?

http://www.ipm.uiuc.edu/diseases/series1000/rpd1006/

http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/cropprot/tfipm/crowngall.htm

http://grapes.msu.edu/crowngall.htm

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

No, Emrys, but thanks. I don't think it's that. There are no growths
such as indicated on that site. Just this horrible mucus-like gunge on
the bottom 12 inches of stem.

Pam in Bristol

andrewpreece 09-05-2005 10:18 PM


"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 May 2005 18:45:32 +0100, "Emrys Davies"
wrote:

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
.. .
My daughter is developing a really lovely garden, in which everything
seems to be doing well. (Gloucestershire)
However, a clematis montana which she planted 2 years ago to cover a
shed, started off well this year and then gradually died back. This
weekend she decided to remove it. She found that the bottom 12 inches
of the stem was covered in "gunge". She described it as "snotty", I
more politely said it looked like thick creamy wallpaper paste. It was
definitely oozing out of the stem, not deposited on it.
1. What is it? I've never heard of c. wilt causing this.
2. Can she replant if she removes some soil?
3. Is it worth sterilsing the soil with Armillatox or something?
She's waiting for the expert advice I said Urglers would come up with!
TIA


Pam in Bristol


Crown gall can infect clematis. These sites describe it and show
photos. of it. Are there similarities?

http://www.ipm.uiuc.edu/diseases/series1000/rpd1006/

http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/cropprot/tfipm/crowngall.htm

http://grapes.msu.edu/crowngall.htm

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

No, Emrys, but thanks. I don't think it's that. There are no growths
such as indicated on that site. Just this horrible mucus-like gunge on
the bottom 12 inches of stem.

Pam in Bristol


Clematis Flux I think it is called. Cut it back and it should regrow. It is
bacterial.
My only doubt over it is that I thought Clematis Flux issued forth from the
end
of a stem, I didn't know that it spread all along a stem.

Andy.



Pam Moore 09-05-2005 10:29 PM

On Mon, 9 May 2005 22:18:40 +0100, "andrewpreece"
wrote:

Clematis Flux I think it is called. Cut it back and it should regrow. It is
bacterial.
My only doubt over it is that I thought Clematis Flux issued forth from the
end
of a stem, I didn't know that it spread all along a stem.


Andrew, many thanks.
I looked it up and it does seem exactly described under Clematis Flux
on this page. I've never heard of it.
http://www.gardenaction.co.uk/plantf...lematis_25.asp

Pam in Bristol

Phil L 09-05-2005 11:13 PM

Pam Moore wrote:
:: On Mon, 9 May 2005 22:18:40 +0100, "andrewpreece"
:: wrote:
::
::: Clematis Flux I think it is called. Cut it back and it should
::: regrow. It is bacterial.
::: My only doubt over it is that I thought Clematis Flux issued
::: forth from the end
::: of a stem, I didn't know that it spread all along a stem.
::
:: Andrew, many thanks.
:: I looked it up and it does seem exactly described under Clematis
:: Flux on this page. I've never heard of it.
:: http://www.gardenaction.co.uk/plantf...lematis_25.asp
::

There's a bit about it here too, and a small pictu
http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile...slime_flux.asp



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Pam Moore 10-05-2005 07:30 AM

On Mon, 09 May 2005 22:13:48 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

Pam Moore wrote:
:: On Mon, 9 May 2005 22:18:40 +0100, "andrewpreece"
:: wrote:
::
::: Clematis Flux I think it is called. Cut it back and it should
::: regrow. It is bacterial.
::: My only doubt over it is that I thought Clematis Flux issued
::: forth from the end
::: of a stem, I didn't know that it spread all along a stem.
::
:: Andrew, many thanks.
:: I looked it up and it does seem exactly described under Clematis
:: Flux on this page. I've never heard of it.
:: http://www.gardenaction.co.uk/plantf...lematis_25.asp
::

There's a bit about it here too, and a small pictu
http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile...slime_flux.asp


Thank you folks!
That's it. The plant is already removed, as the slime was right down
to soil level. I told my daughter you'd come up trumps!

Pam in Bristol

Gandalf 10-05-2005 04:09 PM

It's more commonly known as "slime flux", I lost a "Triterinata Rubramarginata" to it last year. Have since replanted and all is well thus far.


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