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Rude awakening - lawn holes
I've noticed a few odd holes in my close cropped lawn over the past few
days. This morning I was woken up to a large (50+) flock of starlings probing the lawn, upon closer inspection large areas of the lawn appeared to have sprouted 30mm high spikes (3-4mm diameter) which appear to be crysalis(sp?) cases no sign of the emerged 'imago', are these mayfiles??? and do they 'hatch' in large numbers together or has some enviromental factor triggered this?? Nik |
"NikV" wrote in message ... I've noticed a few odd holes in my close cropped lawn over the past few days. This morning I was woken up to a large (50+) flock of starlings probing the lawn, upon closer inspection large areas of the lawn appeared to have sprouted 30mm high spikes (3-4mm diameter) which appear to be crysalis(sp?) cases no sign of the emerged 'imago', are these mayfiles??? and do they 'hatch' in large numbers together or has some enviromental factor triggered this?? Nik Crane flies --see this http://www.the-piedpiper.co.uk/th6g.htm |
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from "NikV" contains these words: I've noticed a few odd holes in my close cropped lawn over the past few days. This morning I was woken up to a large (50+) flock of starlings probing the lawn, upon closer inspection large areas of the lawn appeared to have sprouted 30mm high spikes (3-4mm diameter) which appear to be crysalis(sp?) cases no sign of the emerged 'imago', are these mayfiles??? and do they 'hatch' in large numbers together or has some enviromental factor triggered this?? The starlings are doing you a favour and ridding you of leatherjackets and their pupae. They munch on grass roots. They're daddy-long-legs / crane flies. Mayflies hatch from water: aka caddis fly, the grubs make a protective jacket of débris and carry it about. May be of grass, reed, and twig detritus, or small pebbles and bits of shell. I used to catch loads of them when I was an anklebiter, to observe in a goldfish bowl. (The grubs, not me.) -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
[...] They're daddy-long-legs / crane flies. Mayflies hatch from water: aka caddis fly, the grubs make a protective jacket of débris and carry it about. May be of grass, reed, and twig detritus, or small pebbles and bits of shell. [...] Some people call caddis "mayflies", but it would mislead a fisherman. -- Mike. |
The starlings are doing you a favour and ridding you of leatherjackets and their pupae. They munch on grass roots. They're daddy-long-legs / crane flies. Mayflies hatch from water: aka caddis fly, the grubs make a protective jacket of débris and carry it about. May be of grass, reed, and twig detritus, or small pebbles and bits of shell. Cheers thanx for the replies. Got my three year old putting a pinch of grass seed and filling with sand from sand pit - there are hundreds/thousands of holes - trouble is hes a bit heavy handed and I came home to find a lawn dotted with piles of sand (and some seed) LOL Why the synchronised emergence??? Did not see any this morning at all Nik |
NikV wrote:
The starlings are doing you a favour and ridding you of leatherjackets and their pupae. They munch on grass roots. They're daddy-long-legs / crane flies. Mayflies hatch from water: aka caddis fly, the grubs make a protective jacket of débris and carry it about. May be of grass, reed, and twig detritus, or small pebbles and bits of shell. Cheers thanx for the replies. Got my three year old putting a pinch of grass seed and filling with sand from sand pit - there are hundreds/thousands of holes - trouble is hes a bit heavy handed and I came home to find a lawn dotted with piles of sand (and some seed) LOL Glad you can hang on to your sense of humour: after all, your lawn will still be there long after the youngster's stopped being an entertaining three-year-old! Why the synchronised emergence??? Did not see any this morning at all They lay their eggs, and the kids hatch out, when conditions are right. I don't know if this is the last you'll see of them this year, or if there'll be another wave later on. (My favourites are those American things which only hatch out every (?) thirteen and seventeen years, but when they do, they really go for it: US Internet acquaintances had some lovely pictures earlier on. Sometimes I think the UK gardener's life is almost boringly easy.) -- Mike. |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: [...] They're daddy-long-legs / crane flies. Mayflies hatch from water: aka caddis fly, the grubs make a protective jacket of débris and carry it about. May be of grass, reed, and twig detritus, or small pebbles and bits of shell. [...] Some people call caddis "mayflies", but it would mislead a fisherman. Caddis flies = mayflies. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "NikV" contains these words: The starlings are doing you a favour and ridding you of leatherjackets and their pupae. They munch on grass roots. They're daddy-long-legs / crane flies. Mayflies hatch from water: aka caddis fly, the grubs make a protective jacket of débris and carry it about. May be of grass, reed, and twig detritus, or small pebbles and bits of shell. Cheers thanx for the replies. Got my three year old putting a pinch of grass seed and filling with sand from sand pit - there are hundreds/thousands of holes - trouble is hes a bit heavy handed and I came home to find a lawn dotted with piles of sand (and some seed) LOL Why the synchronised emergence??? Did not see any this morning at all Could it be that the starlings were doing the 'emerging'? -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: They lay their eggs, and the kids hatch out, when conditions are right. I don't know if this is the last you'll see of them this year, or if there'll be another wave later on. (My favourites are those American things which only hatch out every (?) thirteen and seventeen years, but when they do, they really go for it: Cicadas? US Internet acquaintances had some lovely pictures earlier on. Sometimes I think the UK gardener's life is almost boringly easy.) Fancy half a hundredweight of slugs and twice that amount of snails? (Bring your own bucket.) -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: [...] They're daddy-long-legs / crane flies. Mayflies hatch from water: aka caddis fly, the grubs make a protective jacket of débris and carry it about. May be of grass, reed, and twig detritus, or small pebbles and bits of shell. [...] Some people call caddis "mayflies", but it would mislead a fisherman. Caddis flies = mayflies. Not to biologists :-) Caddis flies are members of the Order Trichoptera; mayflies are Ephemeroptera. Quite different. regards sarah -- Think of it as evolution in action. |
Sand from the sand pit is probably far to fine. I'd buy the little fellow
some sharp sand. Paul DS. |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message from (sarah) contains these words: Caddis flies = mayflies. Not to biologists :-) Caddis flies are members of the Order Trichoptera; mayflies are Ephemeroptera. Quite different. Hmmm. According to Chambers (which is not *ALWAYS* right'): Mayfly - a short-lived plectopterous insect (Ephemera) that appears in May: the caddis fly; However, they agree with you if I look up caddis! I Think They Should Be Told. ' It would seem... Yes. A lot of nomenclature has changed since my day, but I've checked and that remains the same:-) regards sarah -- Think of it as evolution in action. |
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from (sarah) contains these words: ' It would seem... Yes. A lot of nomenclature has changed since my day, but I've checked and that remains the same:-) I get thoroughly confused in the mushroom groups: the various species are always playing musical chairs. Suddenly, you meet an old friend in a pretty-well unrelated genus to the one you saw it in last time. And then, over the pond some species remain where you'd expect to find them, but their specific name is something totally different... When I first developed an interest in fungi (early '50s), what most people call 'Agaricus' now were more usually 'Psalliota', and the Agaricus genus has been subdivided too. What were all in 'Boletus' seem to have fragmented into 'Suillus', 'Leccinum', 'Porphyrellus', 'Boletinus', 'Gyroporus', 'Strobilomyces', 'Uloporus', 'Aureoboletus' and 'Boletus'. 'Tricholoma' and 'Lycoperdon' have..... Oh, you get the drift! -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message from (sarah) contains these words: ' It would seem... Yes. A lot of nomenclature has changed since my day, but I've checked and that remains the same:-) I get thoroughly confused in the mushroom groups: the various species are always playing musical chairs. Suddenly, you meet an old friend in a pretty-well unrelated genus to the one you saw it in last time. And then, over the pond some species remain where you'd expect to find them, but their specific name is something totally different... When I first developed an interest in fungi (early '50s), what most people call 'Agaricus' now were more usually 'Psalliota', and the Agaricus genus has been subdivided too. What were all in 'Boletus' seem to have fragmented into 'Suillus', 'Leccinum', 'Porphyrellus', 'Boletinus', 'Gyroporus', 'Strobilomyces', 'Uloporus', 'Aureoboletus' and 'Boletus'. 'Tricholoma' and 'Lycoperdon' have..... Oh, you get the drift! And I'm depressed. I used to be able to just about manage 'Boletus'. *sigh* Never mind, the pictures and edibilities in my fungus books still match, even if the names are no longer current! regards sarah -- Think of it as evolution in action. |
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from (sarah) contains these words: 'Tricholoma' and 'Lycoperdon' have..... Oh, you get the drift! And I'm depressed. I used to be able to just about manage 'Boletus'. *sigh* Never mind, the pictures and edibilities in my fungus books still match, even if the names are no longer current! Mushrooms and Other Fungi of Great Britain and Europe by Roger Phillips, Macmillan, ISBN 0 330 26441 9 Well worth buying, and it's not too dear. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message from (sarah) contains these words: 'Tricholoma' and 'Lycoperdon' have..... Oh, you get the drift! And I'm depressed. I used to be able to just about manage 'Boletus'. *sigh* Never mind, the pictures and edibilities in my fungus books still match, even if the names are no longer current! Mushrooms and Other Fungi of Great Britain and Europe by Roger Phillips, Macmillan, ISBN 0 330 26441 9 Well worth buying, and it's not too dear. The Collins _Gem Guide_ is cheap and clear: probably good enough for most of us. -- Mike. |
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VETHISyahoo.co.uk writes Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from (sarah) contains these words: 'Tricholoma' and 'Lycoperdon' have..... Oh, you get the drift! And I'm depressed. I used to be able to just about manage 'Boletus'. *sigh* Never mind, the pictures and edibilities in my fungus books still match, even if the names are no longer current! Mushrooms and Other Fungi of Great Britain and Europe by Roger Phillips, Macmillan, ISBN 0 330 26441 9 Well worth buying, and it's not too dear. The Collins _Gem Guide_ is cheap and clear: probably good enough for most of us. Depends, I suppose, on whether you're planning to eat what you find. If I'm eating a mushroom that I haven't tried before, I like to check the identification in at least two books. I use Marcel Bon 'Mushrooms and toadstools of britain and NW Europe' for drawings and keys, and Phillips for photos. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Mushrooms and Other Fungi of Great Britain and Europe by Roger Phillips, Macmillan, ISBN 0 330 26441 9 Well worth buying, and it's not too dear. The Collins _Gem Guide_ is cheap and clear: probably good enough for most of us. I've got the Collins Guide to Mushrooms and Toadstools, and it lists one very poisonous species as edible (Paxillus involutus), and another with a warning that 'some people' may find it poisonous or even deadly, following that with the coment that it is widely eaten after special treatment. The illustrations are pretty-well useless, too. I've not met the Collins Gem Guide book. No doubt I shall, as I've quite a collection of boks on fungi, and it's mushrooming... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Kay contains these words: Depends, I suppose, on whether you're planning to eat what you find. If I'm eating a mushroom that I haven't tried before, I like to check the identification in at least two books. I use Marcel Bon 'Mushrooms and toadstools of britain and NW Europe' for drawings and keys, and Phillips for photos. If you get a chance, have a look at Wayside and Woodland Fungi (Warne) by W.P.K.Findlay, and illustrated (posthumously) with drawings and paintings done early in life, by Beatrix Potter, and by two other artists. I was lucky enough to get it for £14.50 - a first reprint (1978). If you come across a first edition/impression of 1967 for a reasonable price, snap it up. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Mushrooms and Other Fungi of Great Britain and Europe by Roger Phillips, Macmillan, ISBN 0 330 26441 9 Well worth buying, and it's not too dear. The Collins _Gem Guide_ is cheap and clear: probably good enough for most of us. I've got the Collins Guide to Mushrooms and Toadstools, and it lists one very poisonous species as edible (Paxillus involutus), and another with a warning that 'some people' may find it poisonous or even deadly, following that with the coment that it is widely eaten after special treatment. The illustrations are pretty-well useless, too. I've not met the Collins Gem Guide book. No doubt I shall, as I've quite a collection of boks on fungi, and it's mushrooming... Thanks for the warning. I can't check at present, as most of my books are in boxes. The Gem series is, I think, produced separately from the Field Guides, and may have better info on mycoedibility. They seem to be remarkably good (certainly wipe the floor with the old Observer's Books, which mostly have only sentimental value now). The flowers one is too brief for me, but the European mammals suits me down to the ground: it even has whales. I'm told the illustrations in the Gem fishes are a knock-out, but it's out of print, and they told me a few years ago that they didn't plan to reissue it -- so, **if anybody spots one at a sensible price, I'd be very grateful to buy it from them**. -- Mike. |
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from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: I'm told the illustrations in the Gem fishes are a knock-out, but it's out of print, and they told me a few years ago that they didn't plan to reissue it -- so, **if anybody spots one at a sensible price, I'd be very grateful to buy it from them**. I'll keep my eye out - for two... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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