any asparagus experts out there?
 

Hi - I purchased an asparagus crowns in the middle of April and planted
it out. The garden nursery said it was a two year old asparagus and
should crop this year, albeit lightly. I know its only been one month,
but it looks a bit spindly to me.

I've put some pics online he
http://www.thesullies.com/garden/asparagus.htm. Could any expert take
a look at tell me if the nursery was being optimistic with its
predictions of a crop.

Also, I just took the plant from its container and plonked it in the
ground with a bit of compost. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to
separate the spears - for the sake of not stressing the roots, I opted
not to. I'm now thinking that one plant (or crown?) will only feed me
one meal next year, which is a poor return - so perhaps I better go and
get a few more crowns. Or can I expect new spears to emerge from the
ground next year, and if so should I allow them to grow or nip them off
?

Many thanks in advance...

Rgds,
Kevin.

PS - I am in Hove, East Sussex.
PPS - I am a novice gardiner - which may be clear by now. But this
usenet group is great!

wrote:
Hi - I purchased an asparagus crowns in the middle of April and
planted it out. The garden nursery said it was a two year old
asparagus and should crop this year, albeit lightly. I know its only
been one month, but it looks a bit spindly to me.

I've put some pics online he
http://www.thesullies.com/garden/asparagus.htm. Could any expert take
a look at tell me if the nursery was being optimistic with its
predictions of a crop.

Also, I just took the plant from its container and plonked it in the
ground with a bit of compost. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to
separate the spears - for the sake of not stressing the roots, I opted
not to. I'm now thinking that one plant (or crown?) will only feed me
one meal next year, which is a poor return - so perhaps I better go
and get a few more crowns. Or can I expect new spears to emerge from
the ground next year, and if so should I allow them to grow or nip
them off ?

Many thanks in advance...

Rgds,
Kevin.

PS - I am in Hove, East Sussex.
PPS - I am a novice gardiner - which may be clear by now. But this
usenet group is great!

You obviously don't watch /Gardener's World/. They did a piece about
sparrows' grass last Friday. As far as I can remember (I was dozy after my
fish and chip supper) they don't start producing a large crop until the
second or even third year.

The other problem is that you're a novice and growing sparrows' grass isn't
really something you should be attempting as your first veggie growing
project.

Also check your soil type - where do you live? They also like to be in the
full sun and, to the best of my knowledge, aren't that hardy, so would need
to be kept under cloches at this time of year as we are still experiencing
some nights of frost. Having said that, according to the link below, they
will grow in almost any soil (it doesn't make specific mention of sand, but
it does say acidic, so I took that to mean sandy).

Basics can be found on the /Gardener's World/ site
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plant...ges/7092.shtml,
but I'm sure someone else will come along who has a bit more knowledge than
I do.

As an aside, could someone please tell me why it's colloquially known as
'sparrows' grass' - is it to do with the sound of the word - or something
else?

Sarah

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Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

The other problem is that you're a novice and growing sparrows' grass isn't
really something you should be attempting as your first veggie growing
project.

It depends on your soil. Given the right one, it is a weed.

Also check your soil type - where do you live? They also like to be in the
full sun and, to the best of my knowledge, aren't that hardy, so would need
to be kept under cloches at this time of year as we are still experiencing
some nights of frost. Having said that, according to the link below, they
will grow in almost any soil (it doesn't make specific mention of sand, but
it does say acidic, so I took that to mean sandy).

They are fully hardy, and they definitely don't need acid, but need
deep soil and excellent drainage. In sand, they will establish
themselves as a self-sowing weed. I don't grow asparagus - I hunt it.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
Also check your soil type - where do you live? They also like to be in the
full sun and, to the best of my knowledge, aren't that hardy, so would need

We're in East Anglia, hardly the least frosty part of the UK, and ours
have survived several years without problems.

As an aside, could someone please tell me why it's colloquially known as
'sparrows' grass' - is it to do with the sound of the word - or something
else?

I thought it was the other way about, asparagus is a corruption of
sparrow grass, but maybe I'm completely wrong there.

--
Chris Green

In article , writes:
| Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
| Also check your soil type - where do you live? They also like to be in the
| full sun and, to the best of my knowledge, aren't that hardy, so would need
|
| We're in East Anglia, hardly the least frosty part of the UK, and ours
| have survived several years without problems.
|
| As an aside, could someone please tell me why it's colloquially known as
| 'sparrows' grass' - is it to do with the sound of the word - or something
| else?
|
| I thought it was the other way about, asparagus is a corruption of
| sparrow grass, but maybe I'm completely wrong there.

From the OED:

Originally asfaragos in Greek, sperach or sparage in the 16th century,
asparagus came in about 1600 via herbalists etc. which was corrupted
to sparrow-grass by 1690, which was replaced by asparagus in educated
use in the 19th century, though cookery books often referred to grass.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Thanks, everyone, for the info - I have a further question:

As you can see in the pic, I have five spears - ranging from a lanky
two feet to a scrawny two inches. Would this be a single crown ? And
does the number of spears increase each year as the crown develops?

I think I'll have to go get some more crowns and sit tight until next
year.

Following up to

o perhaps I better go and
get a few more crowns. Or can I expect new spears to emerge from the
ground next year, and if so should I allow them to grow or nip them off

i grew from seed and after three years I'm getting a few to eat.
As they seem to come up in ones and twos i'm glad I have a whole
allotment row. I asked here the other day about what to remove
and since got to grips with the logic. The leaves provide an
engine to grow the plant, so you must leave some in place. Books
say harvest till a certain date then leave but i'm finding there
are plenty of thin shoots not worth picking and also good shoots
that are away a foot high while my backs turned, so i'm fairly
relaxed about taking fat shoots when they arrive.
(corrections to above welcomed).
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On 11 May 2005 01:01:30 -0700, "
wrote:

Hi - I purchased an asparagus crowns in the middle of April and planted
it out. The garden nursery said it was a two year old asparagus and
should crop this year, albeit lightly. I know its only been one month,
but it looks a bit spindly to me.

I think yours have established quite well but DON'T cut any.
I put in 5 crowns about 7 years ago, and this year have already had 4
pickings, the best ever.
I also planted, last year, 2 plnts from pots, bought from garden
centre, and 9 seedlings grown at home. The 2 from pots have not shown
at all and of the seedlings, so far only 2 are showing the tiniest bit
of feathery leaf.
Be patient! It will be worth the wait.

Pam in Bristol

Following up to Pam Moore

the seedlings, so far only 2 are showing the tiniest bit
of feathery leaf.

I had to weed the seedling with my reading glasses on all first
season.
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In article , writes
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
Also check your soil type - where do you live? They also like to be in the
full sun and, to the best of my knowledge, aren't that hardy, so would need

We're in East Anglia, hardly the least frosty part of the UK, and ours
have survived several years without problems.

As an aside, could someone please tell me why it's colloquially known as
'sparrows' grass' - is it to do with the sound of the word - or something
else?

I thought it was the other way about, asparagus is a corruption of
sparrow grass, but maybe I'm completely wrong there.

Asparagus is the genus of a number of different species, including the
one that we eat. AFAIK, sparrow-grass is a corruption.
--
Kay
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