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"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Wed, 18 May 2005 13:58:05 GMT, "graham" wrote: My local supermarket (in Calgary) often has Dutch ones! The cost of flying them that far must be horrendous! When I was in Canada 2 years ago (Vancouver to Calgary) we were amazed that we seldom saw a tomato in any hotel or restaurant. We were told that they are very expensive because most are exported to USA! What is the world playing at? LOL Pam in Bristol The Yanks were/are suckers enough to pay the high prices for them...I bought a single tomato to 'check 'em out'....not even good enough for fried tomatoes...H |
On Wed, 18 May 2005 10:12:47 +0100, "RichardS"
wrote: Incidentally, why are they described as being "on the vine" rather than "on the truss"? Are both correct, or is it marketing-speak? Vine? Hand? Truss? Vine = grapes; Hand = bananas; Truss = tomatoes! Wonder who thought up the use of the word "vine", and in which country. LOL Pam in Bristol |
Pam Moore wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 10:12:47 +0100, "RichardS" wrote: Incidentally, why are they described as being "on the vine" rather than "on the truss"? Are both correct, or is it marketing-speak? Vine? Hand? Truss? Vine = grapes; Hand = bananas; Truss = tomatoes! Wonder who thought up the use of the word "vine", and in which country. LOL Pam in Bristol AFAIK "vine" is a growth 'habit' of a plant: Vine= twining/climbing plant with relatively long stems, can be woody or herbaceous. Truss=a branch with tomatoes on it. Consequently not necessarily different. I would have thought that 'vine tomatoes' is a marketing term, maybe stretching the term 'vine' as usually used, but not actually wrong. |
In article , Pam Moore
writes On Wed, 18 May 2005 10:12:47 +0100, "RichardS" wrote: Incidentally, why are they described as being "on the vine" rather than "on the truss"? Are both correct, or is it marketing-speak? Vine? Hand? Truss? Vine = grapes; Hand = bananas; Truss = tomatoes! Wonder who thought up the use of the word "vine", and in which country. LOL I suppose 'truss' was thought to be too associated with hernias -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
quote The other veg I don't normally give two hoots for fresh (from
supermarkets) are peas - IMHO frozen wins on flavour hands down. Of course if you're growing them yourself everything changes..... :-) Well I'm shortly to be moving to Spain, and will really enjoy the local fresh food there, so much nicer than it is in the UK. Spain, of course, supplies a huge amount of the food, especially tomatoes, sold here in the UK. Mike |
sarah wrote:
Noises Off wrote: Alan Holmes wrote: 'Vine' tomatoes are becomming fairly common in the shops, but:- What, exactly, are 'Vine' tomatoes? Isn't the main point of the 'vine' so that the check-out person can distinguish them from ordinary tomatoes? And charge you more. nah, the plastic packaging and bar code do that :-) Err, well, in the nicest possible way, err, no. In this piece of paradise I call my own (south/central London) I have seen loose 'vine' tomatoes in Marks & Sparks and Costcutter. Noises Off |
Noises Off wrote:
sarah wrote: Noises Off wrote: Alan Holmes wrote: 'Vine' tomatoes are becomming fairly common in the shops, but:- What, exactly, are 'Vine' tomatoes? Isn't the main point of the 'vine' so that the check-out person can distinguish them from ordinary tomatoes? And charge you more. nah, the plastic packaging and bar code do that :-) Err, well, in the nicest possible way, err, no. In this piece of paradise I call my own (south/central London) I have seen loose 'vine' tomatoes in Marks & Sparks and Costcutter. I guess Waitrose doesn't trust its staff to recognise them :-) regards sarah -- Think of it as evolution in action. |
On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:10:54 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
wrote: 'Vine' tomatoes are becomming fairly common in the shops, but:- What, exactly, are 'Vine' tomatoes? Do they taste any different to 'ordinary' tomatoes? Are they just a scam so that the growers don't have to bother picking each one, just cut the whole bunch off the plant, making them cheaper to grow, but charging the silly cutomer more? Nearly all fruit and veg in the supermarkets are sprayed with chemicals to prolong the shelf life, wash or peel before using. Better still go back to the days before fridge and freezers and grow your own seasonal fruit and veg. Tastes better and does you good. |
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:17:22 GMT, (Neil Cairns)
wrote: | Nearly all fruit and veg in the supermarkets are sprayed with | chemicals to prolong the shelf life, Water is a chemical, as are salt, sugar etc. Everything else in this world is either a chemical or a mixture of chemicals. I assume you are against air http://www.mistupid.com/chemistry/aircomp.htm which is quite a complex mixture of chemicals Mind you I am not happy about washing root vegetables with water which IME *reduces* shelf life. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk On any Usenet newsgroup, *truth* is defined by the person or group who shout longest and loudest. It is not related to any reality. :-( |
"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:17:22 GMT, (Neil Cairns) : wrote: : : : | Nearly all fruit and veg in the supermarkets are sprayed with : | chemicals to prolong the shelf life, : : Water is a chemical, as are salt, sugar etc. Everything else in this world : is either a chemical or a mixture of chemicals. I assume you are against : air http://www.mistupid.com/chemistry/aircomp.htm which is quite a complex : mixture of chemicals : or gamma rays, which is not a chemical. Had a chat, once, with someone from Sainsburys, (no name no packdrill etc.) who said it was possible to taste the difference between irradiated and non-irradiated food. This guy was a scientist, not a marketing man. cheers Wazza |
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:48:04 +0000 (UTC), "Wazza"
wrote: | | "Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message | ... | : On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:17:22 GMT, (Neil Cairns) | : wrote: | : | : | : | Nearly all fruit and veg in the supermarkets are sprayed with | : | chemicals to prolong the shelf life, | : | : Water is a chemical, as are salt, sugar etc. Everything else in this world | : is either a chemical or a mixture of chemicals. I assume you are against | : air http://www.mistupid.com/chemistry/aircomp.htm which is quite a complex | : mixture of chemicals | : | or gamma rays, which is not a chemical. http://www.food.gov.uk/safereating/r...d/irradfoodqa/ It is required that all foods, or ingredients of foods listed on the label, which have been irradiated, are labelled as 'irradiated' or 'treated with ionising radiation'. When irradiated food is not pre-packed and is sold for immediate consumption (for example, in restaurants) it must be marked or labelled on a menu, notice or ticket that the consumer can see when choosing the food. I read many labels a week. (sad) :-( I have never seen a label which said anything had been irradiated. So irradiated food must be very rare, because that would be something which would hit me in the face. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk On any Usenet newsgroup, *truth* is defined by the person or group who shout longest and loudest. It is not related to any reality. :-( |
Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:17:22 GMT, (Neil Cairns) wrote: Nearly all fruit and veg in the supermarkets are sprayed with chemicals to prolong the shelf life, Water is a chemical, as are salt, sugar etc. Everything else in this world is either a chemical or a mixture of chemicals. I assume you are against air http://www.mistupid.com/chemistry/aircomp.htm which is quite a complex mixture of chemicals Gosh! I never realised that before. You're so clever, Dave! Mind you I am not happy about washing root vegetables with water which IME *reduces* shelf life. Well, amazing, nobody knew that, either. Next? -- Mike. |
On 18/5/05 2:58 pm, in article NRHie.1405514$6l.1138425@pd7tw2no, "graham"
wrote: "Harold Walker" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... AFAIK thay are tomatoes allowed to ripen naturally, most tomatoes in the shops are picked green, then artificially ripened when they arrive in the UK. They certainly do ahve a much nicer taste that the equivalent loose ones. Mike I find this interesting....how long have they been imported this way in the UK...for many years on the western edges of the big puddle tomatoes have been shipped from Florida to the north via a lorry filled with ethylene gas...by the time they arrive up north they too have been converted from green to red...taste wis would just as soon eat cardboard. We too now have the 'vine ripened' ones. While better than the lorry ripened ones they are still far from the local or home grown jobbies....but not worth the asking price....H My local supermarket (in Calgary) often has Dutch ones! The cost of flying them that far must be horrendous! Graham And they taste of nothing. I *never* buy Dutch tomatoes! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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