new gardener, rocky soil
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My problem is: I am hoping to plant some grass and grow a good looking even lawn but previously the soil had rock cemented over it and over the years and after removing the cemented rock many small rocks have been mixed into the soil it also contain many pieces of small plastic, glass and metal. What is the quickest way to get rid of this? They aren't big rocks that you can pick up in handfulls, they are mainly small and mixed in with the earth, LOTS of rocks. Does it realy matter as long as i get rid of most of it? any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated, more details below... 18yrs old, first attempt at gardening, trying to turn a garden that looks more like a forest/rubbish dump into a good looking garden. I am a very new young gardener with a massive job on my hands. My great aunt's garder has been left un-touched for about 4 years now apart from a quick clear out about a year and a half ago, just flattening the weeds. On return about a week ago i found weeds with gigantic roots, average height of the weeds were about 6ft and the garden looked more like a forest. I managed to flatten most of it in about an hour or 2 although the 'tree-looking' weeds took longer, still digging a few i left in. Have now diverted my attention to lifting up all the rock slates as i feel it will be easier to just work my way through the whole lawn with these out the way and have managed to lift all the rocks up. The garden is about 20x5 meters. I have also just used 3 sachets of weedol2 weedkiller on the soil area (14x5) which is atleast 4x the amount i was supposed to as it just seemed to pour out too fast, next time ill use a lower concentration. Anyway the plan is to turn this garden/forest into something that i can relax in. I am hoping to lay lawn on the top level soil (14x5 area), build a shed from scratch, build a rockery, cement new brick for the few steps, cement a wall on the lower ground to section off a small area about (.5x6) in which to grow veg or anything else i decide to and section off an area on the top lawn (.5x14) so i have a specific area to grow mainly flowers. Hmm what else. Also a seating area made of the rocks i take up about .5m out from the corner of the wall. Also thinking of installing a water feature in the middle, although I may have to settle for the bird bath i allready have. I am also hoping to install or build a barbeque and 4 hooks at the top of the garden tied to trees above on which i can suspend a waterproof sheet when needed. So anyway it sounds massive but it's mostly for fun and im enjoying it. I mainly used a metal stick to demolish most of the weeds but am obviously now digging them up. I am 18years old and this is my first attempt at any real gardening. What i am thinking is i will keep people on forums upto date on my progress (I have pictures if you wish to see) and if anyone cares or can be bothered to read it maybe they can give me tips along the way. Anyway next steps are ripping up the rest of the cemented rocks, digging up any rubbish and weeds in the lawn and trying to lay some grass if i haven't contaminated the lawn with way too much weedkiller. With regards to laying the grass, once the soil is as clean as i can get it i am going to simply rake it, spread to the seeds (left to right, top to bottom) and rake it again and cross my fingers, any ideas on anything would be great. Thanks again, Oh, I am also painting an old bench, rigging up a washing line to my room on the 1st floor and possibly building a table. |
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from mbwest contains these words: Good Morning, 'Morning. My problem is: I am hoping to plant some grass and grow a good looking even lawn but previously the soil had rock cemented over it and over the years and after removing the cemented rock many small rocks have been mixed into the soil it also contain many pieces of small plastic, glass and metal. What is the quickest way to get rid of this? Apart from hiring a mechanical riddle, it means a lot of hard and time-consuming work, I'm afraid. Whereabouts are you? Is the rock natural, or old builders' rubble? Is the area free-draining? Is the soil light and sandy, loam, or heavy, or clay? They aren't big rocks that you can pick up in handfulls, they are mainly small and mixed in with the earth, LOTS of rocks. Does it realy matter as long as i get rid of most of it? any ideas? Assuming the area is reasonably free-draining and the soil is not too heavy, what I'd do would be to buy a large sieve/riddle and a length of heavy black plastic. (Builders' merchant or good ironmonger.) Dig a strip out and pile the spoil in front, making a heap of any roots &c, which you can compost. I think you'll find details of composting in the faq, http://www.nugget.demon.co.uk/MetaFAQ/index.html /¯¯¯\ _______/ \_ ________ |_____________| Pick out as many of the stones/rubble as you can and lob most of it in the trench, collecting plastic and glass for disposal or recycling. Lay the plastic sheet somewhere convenient, and sieve the soil on to it, throwing the spoil in the trench. Cover spoil with sieved soil and move the trench along, repeating the process until you have done the whole area. Seed it and rake it level. You may need to criss-cross the area with stretched strands of black thread, old CDs, suspended, and other bird deterrents, or persuade a cat to sit in the middle. Any help would be greatly appreciated, more details below... Yers. If you put as much energy into doing the job, you should have it done tomorrow... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
"mbwest" wrote in message ... Good Morning, My problem is: I am hoping to plant some grass and grow a good looking even lawn but previously the soil had rock cemented over it and over the years and after removing the cemented rock many small rocks have been mixed into the soil it also contain many pieces of small plastic, glass and metal. What is the quickest way to get rid of this? They aren't big rocks that you can pick up in handfulls, they are mainly small and mixed in with the earth, LOTS of rocks. Does it realy matter as long as i get rid of most of it? any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated, more details below... 18yrs old, first attempt at gardening, trying to turn a garden that looks more like a forest/rubbish dump into a good looking garden. I am a very new young gardener with a massive job on my hands. My great aunt's garder has been left un-touched for about 4 years now apart from a quick clear out about a year and a half ago, just flattening the weeds. On return about a week ago i found weeds with gigantic roots, average height of the weeds were about 6ft and the garden looked more like a forest. I managed to flatten most of it in about an hour or 2 although the 'tree-looking' weeds took longer, still digging a few i left in. Have now diverted my attention to lifting up all the rock slates as i feel it will be easier to just work my way through the whole lawn with these out the way and have managed to lift all the rocks up. The garden is about 20x5 meters. I have also just used 3 sachets of weedol2 weedkiller on the soil area (14x5) which is atleast 4x the amount i was supposed to as it just seemed to pour out too fast, next time ill use a lower concentration. Anyway the plan is to turn this garden/forest into something that i can relax in. I am hoping to lay lawn on the top level soil (14x5 area), build a shed from scratch, build a rockery, cement new brick for the few steps, cement a wall on the lower ground to section off a small area about (.5x6) in which to grow veg or anything else i decide to and section off an area on the top lawn (.5x14) so i have a specific area to grow mainly flowers. Hmm what else. Also a seating area made of the rocks i take up about .5m out from the corner of the wall. Also thinking of installing a water feature in the middle, although I may have to settle for the bird bath i allready have. I am also hoping to install or build a barbeque and 4 hooks at the top of the garden tied to trees above on which i can suspend a waterproof sheet when needed. So anyway it sounds massive but it's mostly for fun and im enjoying it. I mainly used a metal stick to demolish most of the weeds but am obviously now digging them up. I am 18years old and this is my first attempt at any real gardening. What i am thinking is i will keep people on forums upto date on my progress (I have pictures if you wish to see) and if anyone cares or can be bothered to read it maybe they can give me tips along the way. Anyway next steps are ripping up the rest of the cemented rocks, digging up any rubbish and weeds in the lawn and trying to lay some grass if i haven't contaminated the lawn with way too much weedkiller. With regards to laying the grass, once the soil is as clean as i can get it i am going to simply rake it, spread to the seeds (left to right, top to bottom) and rake it again and cross my fingers, any ideas on anything would be great. Thanks again, Oh, I am also painting an old bench, rigging up a washing line to my room on the 1st floor and possibly building a table. -- mbwest Go to a DIY store like Focus they sell sheets of 1/4 inch mesh about 2ft 6 by 3ft 6 and cost about £4 Make a solid tray frame work to attach this to using 4x1 timbers 2 of 2ft 6 length for short ends and 2 pieces of timber 4ft 6 in for sides ( ie 1 ft extra for handles ) Thus making a large sieve with 2 handles that fits neatly on top of a wheelbarrow Then you can seive your soil to your hearts content to filter out the stones etc Later you can use the seive for screening compost etc |
First off - Thankyou very much for the reply and the help.
Can i not just cover the smaller stones, after getting rid of as many as possible, with some new soil and sow the grass into that. Im in Westminster, London. The rock is not natural. It is in a garden and it all runs down a drain which is known to become blocked. Erm, as i say im a new gardener but most of the grass to me feels quite light and dusty. I will try your suggestion with the large riddle, I did have that one on my mind. Thanks for the details on composting, that was something i was curious about. Are the birds really that much of a threat? Again, im a new gardener so im not sure on this stuff - should I/can I cover most of the seeds with the soil or do they need to sit on top? Best time of the day to sow? "Yers. If you put as much energy into doing the job, you should have it done tomorrow..." - the grass takes atleast 14 days! Thanks for the help ;) I will have some pictures of the progress online soon. |
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from mbwest contains these words: First off - Thankyou very much for the reply and the help. Can i not just cover the smaller stones, after getting rid of as many as possible, with some new soil and sow the grass into that. No. Unfortunately, worm action can tend to bring stones to the top. I remember (Coo! From 1949! When i was a boarding school we had what I was told was a 'pebble bed'. You could rake off the pebbles and within a couple of weeks, the surface was dotted with more. Logically, I would have thought that the worms would bring soil to the surface and tend to bury the stones deeper, but it doesn't work like that. I think rain washes soil into the cavities made by worms, thus underfilling, and (effectively) bringing the stones to the surface. The trouble with too many stones near the surface of a lawn is that it will dry out very quickly. You could buy some topsoil and possibly, some spent mushroom compost and spread that over the area, but that wouldn't be much less work. ATM I'm removing a 'rockery' made (I presume) of soil removed from the ground where the ablutions block was plonked years ago, and studded with raw chunks of broken-up concrete. I'm taking the soil to a depth of about a foot below ground level, spreading the soil in the front garden and putting the 'rocks' in the resulting hole, along with rubble from the chimneybreast excavations in the house. The resulting foundation will be concreted over for a hard-standing in front of the shed/motorcycle stable. Im in Westminster, London. The rock is not natural. It is in a garden and it all runs down a drain which is known to become blocked. Erm, as i say im a new gardener but most of the grass to me feels quite light and dusty. Hum. Buying topsoil wouldn't seem to be an easy option, and there aren't many mushroom farms near Westminster. I fear it may mean hard work and time. You can get mushroom compost in bags though, and here (in Norfolk) the going price is about 50p for a big bag. Remember though, that this will be rendeder to next-to-nothing in a few years by bacteria and fungi, so a compost bin would be a good idea. Also, grass likes lime. I will try your suggestion with the large riddle, I did have that one on my mind. Thanks for the details on composting, that was something i was curious about. Are the birds really that much of a threat? Again, im a new gardener so im not sure on this stuff - should I/can I cover most of the seeds with the soil or do they need to sit on top? Best time of the day to sow? Birds (especially house sparrows) will be delighted if they find you've sown grass-seed, and believe me, if you have, they'll find it, even if it's by accident to begin with. Then chirp gets round and every sparrow for miles around will get to hear about it. You can cover the seed, but not too deep. Ideally, you'd keep a pile of soil aside, scatter the seed, then sieve the soil over it so no seed shows. You may be lucky and fool the sparrows. You can sow grass seed at any time of day (Or night) - the Rural Gods don't venture into Town, so they'll never know. "Yers. If you put as much energy into doing the job, you should have it done tomorrow..." - the grass takes atleast 14 days! Thanks for the help ;) I will have some pictures of the progress online soon. Good oh. I'll look forward to that. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
thanks nambucca i think i'll give that a go.
but... Can i not just cover the smaller stones, after getting rid of as many as possible, with some new soil and sow the grass into that. & Are the birds really that much of a threat? Again, im a new gardener so im not sure on this stuff - should I/can I cover most of the seeds with the soil or do they need to sit on top? Best time of the day to sow? and what about squirrels? Thanks again, Murray |
Thanks again for all those tips, i will take them on board. Off out into the garden now for some more hard work and good news:
The pics were uploaded to this site: www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenpicsset1.htm Bad news: I can't actually see them although it took me 20mins to upload. Good news: here are the individual pics but no commentry or structure to them, they are just in order of when i took them: http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image002.jpg http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image004.jpg http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image006.jpg http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image008.jpg http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image002.jpg http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image004.jpg http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image006.jpg http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image008.jpg http://www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenp...s/image010.jpg Here are some notes to go with those pictures: pic3: Just a picture of most of the rubble. Pic4: There were three like this at the rear of the garden that had been left un-touched for over 18 months. You can imagine how big the rest of the tree/weed was. Pic6: Aerial picture of the garden today (09/06/05 – 15:44). You can see another root that I have dug up in the top right of the picture. The branches and leaves have been cleared from the top right of the picture and now I have half of the slabs ripped up from the garden. Pic7: Here you can see the soil that was under the paving slabs. To me it looks fairly good from there but a closer inspection would reveal a great deal of small rocks, glass and plastic and apparently my great great uncle buried a few animals in there including chickens, dogs and cats. I did recently find 2 bones but I’m pretty sure they are from my late dog’s dinner – Don’t dig too deep. Pic8: The bricks you can see at the top of the picture used to be a barbeque and to the right of it you can see one of the many garden Tools I managed to break. Pic9: What I hope my garden will resemble at the end of all my hard work. The bottom left area will now definitely be a brick wall and I will fill that enclosed area with soil probably for growing veg. I know the sketch isn’t very technical, it was just so I could keep a picture in my mind of what I am aiming for. Sorry about having it all soo split up, i'll try and get it into a proper gallery/website soon. Hope you like the pics and find them useful if you have any queries just let me know Also remember there are no pics of what it originally looked like, don't be fooled by thinking pic1 was the start I just tried that original site again: www.mmmmm165.plus.com/gardenpicsset1.htm and it appears to work, it just takes a long time to load as there are 4 pictures on it, there is also a link to the 2nd page at the bottom with the other 5 pics on it. So maybe click the link and go and make yourself a cup of tea and when you come bac maybe it will bo done, although maybe not. It appears to take ages on mine if it appears at all and im on 512k broadband. Oh, i also have two video clips of a tour of the garden which i wil try and upload soon. |
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Good news: here are the individual pics but no commentry or structure to them, they are just in order of when i took them: For some reason, they're not forwarding properly, but I managed to figure out the URLs of the images... great idea to keep a photo diary as your garden progresses! Might have to do the same myself :) Am envious of your flat section. Looking forward to seeing more! -- Maggie |
I have another problem. I went back into my garden today mainly to give it a little rake, get it ready for the lawn seeds and admire my work, mostly the latter but unfortunatly found myself down there for 3hrs diggin up masses of weeds and lots more to do still.
How much of a weed do you need to pull out to totally kill it? Can you ever COMPLETELY rid a patch of weeds without the use of nuclear weapons? If so how? I brought Weedol2 but saw it said on the side "inactivated as soon as it touches the soil" and saw one on TV adverstised as killing all the roots, i naturally thought all weedkillers did that?!? So basically i am hoping to lay this lawn soon but i dont want to have to worry about a constant supply of weeds oming up! Will they? How much needs pulling out? Should i but a stronger weedkiller (keep in mind i have a lot of cats that roam my garden). Basically any tips on weed-control would be great. I' also going to have a good look around the forum for any tips elsewhere. thanks again! |
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from mbwest contains these words: I have another problem. I went back into my garden today mainly to give it a little rake, get it ready for the lawn seeds and admire my work, mostly the latter but unfortunatly found myself down there for 3hrs diggin up masses of weeds and lots more to do still. Ah. I presume you didn't examine the first six inches of soil for seeds... Sorry, but this is par for the course. How much of a weed do you need to pull out to totally kill it? In the case of most of them, the stem and most of the root. If it's a nettle, bindweed, horsetail, willow herb or similar, there will almost certainly be underground runners which go deep into the soil, wait until your back is turned, then send minions out to thumb their noses at you. Can you ever COMPLETELY rid a patch of weeds without the use of nuclear weapons? Yes. One nuclear weapon is quite sufficient. If so how? Spray all weeds with Roundup or other glyphosate-containing weedkiller. Wait for the next crop, then spray that. Then, sow your grass seed, and pull up any weeds which still appear, until the grass is established. Then you can spray the grass with a weedkiller which kills broad-leaved weeds, I've forgotten the name of it. However, if you have any arable farmers in Westminster, I'm sure they'll give you some of their empty (plastic) cans or drums. There's usually enough for a year's applications in half a dozen cans/drums, and you can cut the tops off them and use them for other things later. I brought Weedol2 but saw it said on the side "inactivated as soon as it touches the soil" and saw one on TV adverstised as killing all the roots, i naturally thought all weedkillers did that?!? No, grammoxone-based weedkillers just kill the green areas, preventing the plant from photosynthesising food. Shallow-rooted weeds die because of it, but deep-rooted weeds like dandelions, bindweed, horsetail and sometimes, nettles, have enough energy in their roots to make several more excursions into the sun. Any stray grammoxone or glyphosate weedkiller which reaches the soil combines with clay/stone molecules and is rendered harmless. (Allegedly harmless.) So basically i am hoping to lay this lawn soon but i dont want to have to worry about a constant supply of weeds oming up! Will they? How much needs pulling out? Should i but a stronger weedkiller (keep in mind i have a lot of cats that roam my garden). Neither grammoxone nor glyphosate will harm the cats, once it's dried. Rabbits and caterpillars might be quite terminally upset. Basically any tips on weed-control would be great. I' also going to have a good look around the forum for any tips elsewhere. I'll ask a fiend if I can put a pic of his on me wibble... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: The message from mbwest contains these words: Basically any tips on weed-control would be great. I' also going to have a good look around the forum for any tips elsewhere. I'll ask a fiend if I can put a pic of his on me wibble... http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/inky.htm -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. |
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote: snip I'll ask a fiend if I can put a pic of his on me wibble... The devil you will! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
Thanks for that info,
It will be a great help! |
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from mbwest contains these words: Thanks for that info, It will be a great help! Which info' in particular? (No attributions...) -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Just a little update with my garden.
Not much at all has happened recently apart from some apples falling and a bit of raking and ripping out weeds! BUT tomorrow I’m hoping to sow those seeds but need some final help. B&Q or Homebase? (currently 10% off at homebase). What is the best one for a spot of garden shopping? I can't find any sand anywhere but my mum can get hold of some cheap play sand for kids play areas, will this be ok? Also, I looked for top-soil and there is no way I’m paying £50+ for a ton of mud, but I managed to find 20ltr bags in Poundstretcher which contain fertiliser so I’m going to go with that. Anyone see this as a big problem? Remember I am on a TIGHT budget. Thanks in advance! |
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from mbwest contains these words: Just a little update with my garden. Not much at all has happened recently apart from some apples falling and a bit of raking and ripping out weeds! BUT tomorrow I’m hoping to sow those seeds but need some final help. B&Q or Homebase? (currently 10% off at homebase). What is the best one for a spot of garden shopping? Never been in either, so I can't help. 10% is relative: 10% off how much? I can't find any sand anywhere but my mum can get hold of some cheap play sand for kids play areas, will this be ok? Sharp sand - ideal. Also, I looked for top-soil and there is no way I’m paying £50+ for a ton of mud, but I managed to find 20ltr bags in Poundstretcher which contain fertiliser so I’m going to go with that. Anyone see this as a big problem? Nope. Remember I am on a TIGHT budget. I'm not surprised, with the price of beer in Westminster being what it is. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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I ended up buying WAY too much and had to pay a cab to take half. I got 5x100ltr bags of bark chipping, it says per bag it covers 4sqm, so I also think i need about the same again. I got 5x35ltr top soil bags at about £3 each. I got a long 'claw'. I got that fine sand i was looking for, about £1 and also managed to get the cement and builders sand i needed to raise the level of the wall. Oh and i also accidently brought 6x20ltr bags of compost. Ooops. I thought it was top soil but that was in the smaller bags only. Never mind. I also spent 20mins in "instore" believing i was in B&Q (same colour codes etc) and complained that it said they were open for another 2hrs when they shut. I also looked for weed and feed and all of the boxes said you need to wait for atleast 6months until you can use it on new lawn. - Is this usual. I also got some slow release fertiliser granuals to sprinkle into the soil. good idea? bad idea? So i should be giving the garden another go tomorrow and hopefully, FINALLY getting those seeds down. Let me know if you have any suggestions/last minute tips and thankyou for all your help! Yes the prices of beer in Westminster are terrible but fortunatly there are still a few student bars i can go to, but i do notice the difference as i regularly shoot with the army where it is about 70p a pint! |
I did notice today that each one of those BIG bags of bark i bought say they cover 4sqm and I have 5 bags making that 20sqm but my garden is 66sqm so i would need atleast another 10 Now that looks like a lot, infact it looks like too much, i mean we are talking 500ltr of the stuff. Do you think it will still do the job, maybe just not as good?
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I got most of it done but it needs about 10 more bricks and we ran out of cement, i actually had to get 2 lamps from my room to finish off the last of the cement. I also managed to loose my keys and had to climb up to the 1st floor kitchen window to get back in. All in all we got the majority done so it's ok, i also had a go at cementing (myfriend is a builder and he showed me how). So next week i am going to cement in the seating area and put the rockery down and then lay the lawn at the end of it all. Finally finished just after 10pm. Off to B&Q again, ill try not too buy soo much this time There still seems to be SOO much glass and rocks in my garden ever after taking a lot out, oooh, it's hard work. How is everyone elses garden going? any big problems? Eileen i'm also curious as to how big your garden is. You say you have an organic garden which means that you have to pull those weeds out by hand and/or dig them up. The thing is as my garden isn't massive, 66sqm soil/soon to be grass area, i would have thought that digging a hole for every weed would make my garden look real patchy. Also what weed and feed do you use? if any. |
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denbanter.co.uk writes Eileen i'm also curious as to how big your garden is. You say you have an organic garden which means that you have to pull those weeds out by hand and/or dig them up. The thing is as my garden isn't massive, 66sqm soil/soon to be grass area, i would have thought that digging a hole for every weed would make my garden look real patchy. Pulling up most weeds doesn't leave any obvious sign. Even when you have to dig up a bit, you re-smooth the soil. Certainly looks better than patches of dead weeds from weedkiller! Unless you're a fan of those gardens where the flower beds are expanses of soil with the odd flower dotted around (or even planted in tidy straight lines) then the plants you are keeping will be so thick that you won't notice that any weeds have been pulled out! And you certainly won't want to risk weedkiller near your precious plants. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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denbanter.co.uk writes I am hoping to have a lawn and that is what i am worried about, if i get weeds coming through that i have to dig up then i'll have patches in my lawn won't i? Yes, you're right, a lawn consisting entirely of grass is probably incompatible with the organic approach. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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from mbwest contains these words: /snip/ Oh and i also accidently brought 6x20ltr bags of compost. Ooops. I thought it was top soil but that was in the smaller bags only. Never mind. I also spent 20mins in "instore" believing i was in B&Q (same colour codes etc) and complained that it said they were open for another 2hrs when they shut. Never mind - mix the compost with the topsoil and the grass will be all the better for it. I also looked for weed and feed and all of the boxes said you need to wait for atleast 6months until you can use it on new lawn. - Is this usual. Yes. At *LEAST* six months. I also got some slow release fertiliser granuals to sprinkle into the soil. good idea? bad idea? Unnecessary, but I can't see that it would hurt. /snip/ Yes the prices of beer in Westminster are terrible but fortunatly there are still a few student bars i can go to, but i do notice the difference as i regularly shoot with the army where it is about 70p a pint! Humffff! When I used to shoot on army ranges there wasn't even a shelter, except the overhang of the butts. And it was often a half-mile march back to the barracks. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from mbwest contains these words: I am hoping to have a lawn and that is what i am worried about, if i get weeds coming through that i have to dig up then i'll have patches in my lawn won't i? Buy a 'touch' weedkiller. You apply it straight on to individual plants with a brush or sponge - the latter usually comes with the bottle. But really, if you pull up the weedlings as they appear, you shouldn't need to. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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