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Herbicide donation?
A little late in the day I've spotted some unusual, and localised, plant death. I've lost a large bracken which I noticed not growing beyond around April this year - it looks like it stalled. Around the same time a 9 ft walnut sapling seems to have lost all its growth and is just now starting to produce some new growth. Part of a grape vine was growing thinly up the walnut branches and that has all died - the rest seems normal though I need to check more closely. And a nearby ash sapling has gone rather mutant in its limited growth. I did wonder if a late frost had done for the bracken, but the then very early growth wasn't frost burnt; the area is near to the house; and a second walnut close by is unaffected. The malaise seems localised around the first walnut which was just starting to make itself obvious above a 6 ft wall. It has had a very small branch which was almost growing over the wall cut off by the neighbour, and I suspect something rather more drastic may have been done. Does anyone know of a likely place to turn to, to test the plants and soil for various unfriendly chemicals? -- Jamie |
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Jamie wrote:
A little late in the day I've spotted some unusual, and localised, plant death. I've lost a large bracken which I noticed not growing beyond around April this year - it looks like it stalled. Around the same time a 9 ft walnut sapling seems to have lost all its growth and is just now starting to produce some new growth. Part of a grape vine was growing thinly up the walnut branches and that has all died - the rest seems normal though I need to check more closely. And a nearby ash sapling has gone rather mutant in its limited growth. It does sound a bit like overspray from a weedkiller. I did wonder if a late frost had done for the bracken, but the then very early growth wasn't frost burnt; the area is near to the house; and a second walnut close by is unaffected. The malaise seems localised around the first walnut which was just starting to make itself obvious above a 6 ft wall. It has had a very small branch which was almost growing over the wall cut off by the neighbour, and I suspect something rather more drastic may have been done. Does anyone know of a likely place to turn to, to test the plants and soil for various unfriendly chemicals? Look no further than the walnut tree itself. Their roots produce juglone a herbicide that will kill or seriously discourage competitors underneath. Having said that narcissi and grass grow OK under mine. There may well be a list somewhere of plants that will grow under a walnut tree. Certain species roots and harsh conditions will be worse. Analysis for traces of unknown herbicide will be very expensive and probably not return any useful information. Regards, Martin Brown |
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In article , Martin Brown |||newspam|
writes Jamie wrote: A little late in the day I've spotted some unusual, and localised, plant death. I've lost a large bracken which I noticed not growing beyond around April this year - it looks like it stalled. Around the same time a 9 ft walnut sapling seems to have lost all its growth and is just now starting to produce some new growth. Part of a grape vine was growing thinly up the walnut branches and that has all died - the rest seems normal though I need to check more closely. And a nearby ash sapling has gone rather mutant in its limited growth. It does sound a bit like overspray from a weedkiller. Except that it couldn't be accidental. And how much would be needed to stop a 9 ft sapling entirely in its tracks? I did wonder if a late frost had done for the bracken, but the then very early growth wasn't frost burnt; the area is near to the house; and a second walnut close by is unaffected. The malaise seems localised around the first walnut which was just starting to make itself obvious above a 6 ft wall. It has had a very small branch which was almost growing over the wall cut off by the neighbour, and I suspect something rather more drastic may have been done. Does anyone know of a likely place to turn to, to test the plants and soil for various unfriendly chemicals? Look no further than the walnut tree itself. Their roots produce juglone a herbicide that will kill or seriously discourage competitors underneath. Having said that narcissi and grass grow OK under mine. A suicidal walnut? Analysis for traces of unknown herbicide will be very expensive and probably not return any useful information. Probably right. -- Jamie |
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"Jamie" wrote in message
... In article , Martin Brown |||newspam| writes Jamie wrote: A little late in the day I've spotted some unusual, and localised, plant death. I've lost a large bracken which I noticed not growing beyond around April this year - it looks like it stalled. Around the same time a 9 ft walnut sapling seems to have lost all its growth and is just now starting to produce some new growth. Part of a grape vine was growing thinly up the walnut branches and that has all died - the rest seems normal though I need to check more closely. And a nearby ash sapling has gone rather mutant in its limited growth. It does sound a bit like overspray from a weedkiller. Except that it couldn't be accidental. And how much would be needed to stop a 9 ft sapling entirely in its tracks? I did wonder if a late frost had done for the bracken, but the then very early growth wasn't frost burnt; the area is near to the house; and a second walnut close by is unaffected. The malaise seems localised around the first walnut which was just starting to make itself obvious above a 6 ft wall. It has had a very small branch which was almost growing over the wall cut off by the neighbour, and I suspect something rather more drastic may have been done. Does anyone know of a likely place to turn to, to test the plants and soil for various unfriendly chemicals? Look no further than the walnut tree itself. Their roots produce juglone a herbicide that will kill or seriously discourage competitors underneath. Having said that narcissi and grass grow OK under mine. A suicidal walnut? Analysis for traces of unknown herbicide will be very expensive and probably not return any useful information. Probably right. -- Jamie If you really think your neighbour has poisoned it, plant another, and set up a webcam/cctv and get him on film next time. Costly, but if you catch him, well worth it! If he did poison the tree, is that criminal damage? I suspect it is... |
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"Matt Durkin" wrote in message If you really think your neighbour has poisoned it, plant another, and set up a webcam/cctv and get him on film next time. Costly, but if you catch him, well worth it! If he did poison the tree, is that criminal damage? I suspect it is... Alternatively liberally spray a systemic weedkiller over the fence near where your plants are dying and tell the neighbour you thing there is some terrible disease around there cos *your* plants started dying and obviously whatever caused it, has sparted to spread to *his* garden too. |
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Jamie wrote:
[-] The malaise seems localised around the first walnut which was just starting to make itself obvious above a 6 ft wall. It has had a very small branch which was almost growing over the wall cut off by the neighbour, and I suspect something rather more drastic may have been done. Not to excuse the 'something drastic', but as someone plagued by tree-planting neighbours, I have to ask... do you know how big that walnut tree will be when it's mature? If it's a little over 6' tall now and one small branch is almost over the wall, then in a few years it will be destabilising that wall, and a few years after that it will be killing plants (shading and juglone) in your neighbour's garden. About 5 years ago our neighbours on one side planted *sycamores* and poplars less than 2' from the property boundary (our fence) to screen the windows in their new extension from our view. Not that we were bothered, and we have nets in our windows. The trees are closer to our house than theirs. We no longer see the morning sun in the kitchen (I miss it), the tree roots are taking all the moisture from the flower/veg bed on our side of the fence -- my raspberry crop is pathetic and the gooseberries are suffering -- and the alder 'cones' are destroying my lawnmower. They also planted a *beech* tree about 3m away from both our house and another neighbour's house. My sole consolation is that they planted a gingko about 4m from their own extension. And we're in a conservation area: trees over 3" DBH can't be felled without a permission and usually a report from a tree surgeon proving they're unsafe. The neigbour on the other side planted a line of trees to screen her manor house from the rest of the village; in another three years or so I'll no longer be able to see my favourite view out over the fields, and I'll have to abandon my dream of a domestic wind turbine in our garden :-(( regards sarah -- Think of it as evolution in action. |
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In article , sarah
writes Jamie wrote: [-] The malaise seems localised around the first walnut which was just starting to make itself obvious above a 6 ft wall. It has had a very small branch which was almost growing over the wall cut off by the neighbour, and I suspect something rather more drastic may have been done. Not to excuse the 'something drastic', but as someone plagued by tree-planting neighbours, I have to ask... do you know how big that walnut tree will be when it's mature? Yes, we already have one around 20 feet tall further down the garden (not near a boundary). It is from that tree that squirrels have planted two more, one of which is near the boundary, both of which will be transplanted/donated/removed as they are not in suitable locations. If it's a little over 6' tall now and one small branch is almost over the wall, then in a few years it will be destabilising that wall, and a few years after that it will be killing plants (shading and juglone) in your neighbour's garden. The wall is ours, my father built it, and the top two courses are breaking away because the neighbour thoughtfully hammered nails into the mortar all along it. They don't have any plants on their side, as it is a concreted area. Their nearest plants are the start of their 40 feet long lleylandi hedge - thankfully kept to around 8 feet high, but merrily poisoning the soil nearby. This hedge gives way to two pines, ours admittedly, and then is replaced by a deciduous 'hedge' they had planted 15 years ago for the remainder of the border. Strangely, these trees have never been pruned so we have a hedge around 20 feet high running along 40 yards of our border, including next to the greenhouse we had there, which is now rather light limited. I don't think the new hedge proposals (law?) are applicable to deciduous hedges... About 5 years ago our neighbours on one side planted *sycamores* and poplars less than 2' from the property boundary (our fence) to screen the windows in their new extension from our view. Not that we were bothered, and we have nets in our windows. The trees are closer to our house than theirs. We no longer see the morning sun in the kitchen (I miss it), the tree roots are taking all the moisture from the flower/veg bed on our side of the fence -- my raspberry crop is pathetic and the gooseberries are suffering -- and the alder 'cones' are destroying my lawnmower. They also planted a *beech* tree about 3m away from both our house and another neighbour's house. My sole consolation is that they planted a gingko about 4m from their own extension. And we're in a conservation area: trees over 3" DBH can't be felled without a permission and usually a report from a tree surgeon proving they're unsafe. The neigbour on the other side planted a line of trees to screen her manor house from the rest of the village; in another three years or so I'll no longer be able to see my favourite view out over the fields, and I'll have to abandon my dream of a domestic wind turbine in our garden :-(( We now have a 6 foot fence erected all down our other border by recent arrivals, so are now completely enclosed. Too many counts in the countryside. I feel your pain. This newsgroup's being bug red atm so I'll have to unsubscibe. -- Jamie |
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