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Old 09-07-2017, 12:00 AM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On 07/07/2017 13:55, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
Janet wrote:
In article , says...

Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:20:05 +0100, "Dan S. MacAbre"
wrote:

I have some roses that I quite like, but they're rather old, too. I
wouldn't expect that to be a problem, and it mostly isn't. But some
have formed a large woody lump at the base (not suprising after
years of
pruning), and the plants seem only able to make new shoots around it,
coming out horizontally, which doesn't help their habit. I can cut
bits
of it away, although I'm not sure that helps; but does it mean that
something else is wrong? It occurred to me that it might be happening
because the plants aren't buried deeply enough (and so not rotting
away
where they should)? Or is it time to replace them?

Two things: Why not try taking cuttings?
http://tinyurl.com/ydevb5rq

I would, but I've always assumed the top bits were slower-growing bits
grafted onto a more vigorous root stock,


Grafting is for speedy success in commercial propagation.

and that a cutting wouldn't be
anything like as healthy?


Many "modern" roses will do very well on their own roots, it's
always worth trying a cutting or six.

(This was one of my early-days surprise lessons as a gardener, from a
local hedge of thriving "Peace" roses, all on their own roots, grown
from cuttings by a neighbour with no green fingers).

Most of the roses in my garden are on their own roots and some have
come from previous gardens (Not all of them mine, LOL).

As soon as my new roses get big enough to take cuttings from, they're
next.


I'll definitely be trying it when it's cooled down a bit.


Janet.






Has your soil become rose sick? http://tinyurl.com/y7kr92ux

Probably :-) But I didn't think that affected the roses that were
already there. I'll go and read that link anyway.




When taking rose cuttings I have always removed the buds that are going
underground and also scrape the lower parts of the stems either with
your finger nail or with a knife blade to add more scaring to the lower
part of the stem, this will callus over and give you a much larger area
to throw roots, (You can do this to many other cuttings as well as
roses), then leave 3 or 4 buds above ground.
Works for me.
David @ a still dry side of Swansea bay