In 2ddacc90051f5cf415f34a23461e2f1b@TeraNews Theo Asir wrote:
Has anyone done a correlation between plants that
go out of patent and Austin Rubbishing it.

I know he rubbishes Tamora too. But
its easily his best copper toned rose.

In fairness, he doesn't always rubbish his early efforts. In his own
book, David Austin's Roses (the one with photos to die for by Clay Perry)
he heaps praise on many older ones, including Heritage, Graham Thomas,
Abraham Darby and The Prince.

At the same time, he doesn't ever say that his new releases are a
backward step! Interesting comment this, about Tamora - you prefer it
to Pat Austin? I thought the two colours were quite different?