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Old 29-10-2002, 10:29 AM
Joe Zorzin
 
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"K Davies" wrote in message
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Larry Caldwell wrote:

In article , foresterSPAM-
writes:



Loggers are in the business of cutting trees down, they don't usually

make
the big decisions- they usually aren't responsible for the really bad

stuff
going on out in the woods- it's more often the foresters, lumber

companies
and idiot state burreacrats with idiot state laws that allow and help to
create the naughty stuff.



Joe, what is with this mental block that you have? The responsibility
for managing the land always starts and ends with the property owner.


The responsibility begins and ends with whoever initiates and writes the
contract. Around here, 7 out of 10 times that person is a mill
forester/procurer or a logger, not a landowner or his/her forester.
It's like letting the buyer of your house write the sale contract and
pay whatever he/she wants. Totally nuts! But that's the way it is, and
that's the way the mills and timber beasts like it.

It's also the way the state burros like it - because that's the way the
mills and timber beasts like it. Here in Massachusetts, you have to
file a cutting plan with the state burros if you're going to cut more
than 25 Mbf or 50 cords. Anyone can prepare the cutting plan! You
don't even have to know how to write because the burros will help you if
you can't.




Really- the last time I visited the forestry burro office- I saw a
disservice burro explaining a cutting plan to a guy who looked like he only
comes out of the woods for salt. G Then, I watched the burro tell the guy,
"put your X right here". G



Of course this goes against 300 years of common law regarding agency and
agents, but the burros, mill owners and timber beasts like it this way.
They like being the state-approved agents of the landowners they're
ripping off.



Then when we expose all this stuff- it's as if we're discussing quantum
mechanics. It's so far off the charts of the burros and industry, they don't
have a clue and obviously don't want a clue. What's unfortunate is that the
top burros and top academics also don't have a clue.


KD