On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Jayne wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions & links - now I need to go & find them!

I bought a pink climber called New Dawn from David Austin (though it
is not his hybrid) and I am very happy with it in a N-NW wall. Having
said that, its scent is not as strong as suggested, but then again I
am in cool Scotland.

Kostas