On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 22:54:06 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote:

Loopers are eating holes in my cabbage, and I can't find Thurcide anywhere.
All I can find is Sevin, Bug-B-Gon, and Bayer Advanced Formula bug spray.
They look like synthetic pyretheroids (except for the Sevin). I don't
want to use that on a leaf crop.

Is Thurcide still being sold? I think I *might* have a 10 year old bottle
of the stuff under the sink that I havn't thrown away yet. Any chance it
would still be viable? I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try it if I can find
the bottle.

Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) comes in many flavors. See:

http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/ent/bi.../bacteria.html

Looks like var. kurstaki is what you're after. And it appears Dipel is
a commercial product. One reference lists it as a synonym for
Thurcide.

Sevin is bad. It kills indescriminately -- butterflies, bees,
whatever.