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Old 17-07-2003, 03:32 PM
Theo Asir
 
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Default Bloom & basal problems.


Climbing Old Blush.
Its now a 3 feet tall six month old
shrub but it gave me 3 flowers in may
and thats it. Any ideas.


You're lucky. My has produced two flushes and 15 inches of growth.
What, you've never grown Kordesiis, two flowers the first year and no
noticeable growth? And then 8 foot canes in year two?


Thought Old Blush was a China.
Thought chinas were rapid growing.
Remember though I got Old blush as
a 1 gallon plant about 18" high. So from
Feb to July only 18" of extra growth!!

Louise Odier
Last year as a 4' shrub I got 4 distinct
flushes from it. This year as a 5' wide by 8'
giant I've got just the one May flush. How do
I get it to bloom again.


Sounds like she's growing great. Have you tried Superbloom?


What is superbloom?
I have heard that there is a trick to getting
Louise to rebloom. Will someone share.


Next the Basal problems(lack of)

Iceberg
This is a 3 year old plant. I got
it as grafted w/ 3 1/2" canes.
One cane died but the the entire
4' wide by 4' tall bush is supported
by the 2 remaining canes. not a single basal
in 3 years. what gives. It seems very healthy
and is never without blooms.


Ignore it. One of mine is OR and only has 4 basals. The budded one
probably has two that are thicker than boomsticks. It oozes new growth
out of every pore. Who needs basals? Some roses produce their basal
growth from low on only a few basal canes.


Yep! there is a lot of new growth
but I tend to strip the lower 18" on many of my
roses to keep disease low. Iceberg does
not let me do this. Also those 2 basals
put out like a million twigs jamming everything up.
It has also turned into a 2 dimensional rose.
long but not broad or tall. I keep hoping a new basal might
go tall to give it a better shape.

http://home.everestkc.net/tasir/images/IcebergBush.jpg

heres a picture in may.
as you can see it is becoming ground cover almost.


Eden.
This is supposedly a pillar rose.
It 2 years old but is still a nice leafy
2'x2' shrub. Nary a bloom.
Nor any growth. nor any basals.


But it is Eden? I mean you've seen the blooms? Mine did zip the first
year, like your 2 x 2. So I moved it. So here it is after 2.5 years in
the ground, finally with a cane or two
http://home.earthlink.net/~cbernstei...denAwaits.jpg:

So it sounds like you're due but not overdue this year. It's new basal
season here...within the past two weeks. FYIm Eden does surprisngly
well with a serious whacking every few years...


Did you move it into the sun or better soil or something?
Mine gets 6-7 hours of sun and it is the 1985 version.
MME Alf. Carriere 7' away is 5' tall & I planted it this may.

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Theo in Zone 5
Kansas City