In article AfyTa.114494$GL4.30129@rwcrnsc53, James Curts
wrote:

"Shiva" wrote in message
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Okay, I'll bite. What is the name of this rose? If you don't know, how
about a pic?


I call it Old Buddy. The neighbors calls it a stickery SOB. The grand kids
won't get near it and call it Old Meany.

It came into being a couple or three generations ago and I do not know the
source although it may have come here in a steamer trunk from Ireland. When
we moved to a new home I just sliced into the root with a shovel and stuffed
the chunk in a bucket where it wintered.

I do not have a picture of it. The first setting of flowers has very
pronounced black lacey weave in the outer row of petals and as the season
progresses the black seems to become less pronounced until in the fall the
flowers are just red and not nearly so brilliant.

Does it look like this:
http://www.rosefog.us/Roseoftheday/ThorOct02.jpg