Thank you so much!

I will check into this. The little bugger survived, and is still in the betta tank. The
pond has been delayed by rain. Which other ponder said that digging a pond was a rain
magnet? Anyway, I am one sever restrictions right now (lift no more than 10 lbs.,
walking the only permitted form of exercise, etc.) so it may be a couple of weeks before
we get the new pond in.

Does Shari's have a website for ordering, or by phone only?

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Most will pack with insulation and some with a cold pack. But it will be
fine during shipping. I am going to give a plug for my local dealer, who is
the cheapest that I know of for KoiZyme. Shari's Petals and Ponds Phone
804-236-0155.
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"_Lil_Lamb" wrote in message
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The closest dealer, to where I am, is over 2 hours away.

Looking for somewhere to order from. This dealer may ship. It says it has
a life of 4-6
mos. at room temp, so a day or so in shipping should be okay, right?

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"RichToyBox" wrote in message
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Go to http://www.koizyme.com/KOICARE/query2_list.asp and see if there is
a
vendor near you. When we started using it we were having to order it
from
Colorado, but two of my local pond stores now have it. It must be
refrigerated, so not everyone will handle it.
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"_Lil_Lamb" wrote in message
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Ahhh.. I will have to get some KoiZyme.

Well, to update the saga, I just went out to see if I could find
Velvet,
and the little
bugger jumped from the spillover main area into the small 'bog' at the
side. I was
happy he is alive (and feeling his oats as he wouldn't let me touch
him).
I got out the
net and gently scooped him out, and brought him inside. He is now
interrupting romance in
the betta breeding 20GL tank, as it has a locking screen cover, much
to
the chagrin of
Mrs. Betta. She wasn't fully ready to mate yet, and as such is still
in
her 'globe' (I use
a hurricane lamp globe so it keeps them apart, yet in the same water
but
allows her to be
very gently let in with him simply by lifting the globe up over her).
I am
going to remove
her and put her back in her "vase" (not the tiny ones they sell for
bettas, this one is
huge!). The male betta came over as the net hit the water, all
flounced
out, until he saw
Velvet's size. LOL. Velvet isn't the least bit interested in either of
them, but quickly
swam to the bottom and stirred up the tiny bit of gravel that is there
as
a host for the
good bacteria. I am going to hit the tank with MarOxy, some
StressZyme,
and pray.

The breeding tank was set up with aquarium salt to aid in healing any
'boo
boo's' the
bettas get during their sometimes violent mating, so that should help!

This may delay the breeding cycle, but I know if I leave the little
stinker in the
spillover, he is going to make another escape attempt, and this time
Mommy
will be in the
hospital, and unable to save him.

We lost only 2 rosy reds during the whole ordeal, so I guess it isn't
as
bad as I feared.
This couldn't have happened at a worse time, though, considering my
condition, my poor
hubby is stuck doing most of the work.

Another quick ??? - is KoiZyme available at places like PetSmart, or
will
I have to go to
a pond specialty store, or is it best to order online? I have never
seen
it, so I don't
know how the online price compares to retail.

Thanks for all your help.

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KoiZyme is a bacteria that competitively excludes the bad bacteria,
unlike
PondZyme and some of the other enzyme products that help digest
waste.
I
have been using it since it first came out and feel that it has
saved
many
of my fish and kept me from having to do antibiotic
injections/treatments/dips etc. I don't like pond treatments for
bacterial
infections since they do have negative effects on the filter if they
are
strong enough to do anything for the fish. Salt at 1 pound per 100
gallons
will do more to stimulate the slime coat than any product that I
know
and it
is CHEAP. Just be sure that it is pure salt, non iodized, such as
pickling
salt, water softener salt, or ice cream salt.
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"_Lil_Lamb" wrote in message
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Thanks! I haven't seen him (floating or otherwise-I *hope* that is
a
good
sign!!!). I put
some PondZyme in the water, and am considering MarOxy, as a
prophylaxis,
as I don't really
have anything for the outdoor tanks, just meds for my indoor
babies.
(I
always dosed with
MarOxy and Maracide when introducing new fish or moving fish to
another
tank). Will MarOxy
be okay in a pond? It is only 35 gallons (they are in the
spillover).
I
have always used
it indoors as I love the Mardel meds since they do not harm the
beneficial
bacteria in my
biological filtration. I think I will go get some of that enzyme
stuff
that makes the
slime coating also.

The hole is dug out for the larger pond (couldn't find the exact
replacement for the 125
gal, so we got a 160 that approximates the same 'shape'). I have
surgery
tomorrow, and if
I scream and yell enough, I should be out by Tuesday, Wednesday at
the
worst. I hope to
get things settled in, and everyone back to the big pond by then.

So basically, to keep them from jumping, the water needs to be
kept
deep,
sweet, and they
need to be watched when you first put them in? He seemed fine in
the
bigger pond, until
the water got so low. Perhaps that is what freaked him out.

Thanks for the reply. I love your site, and was showing your
vacuum to
the
hubby this
morning. He also liked the pond pictures.
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Dee,

Koi will jump when they don't like their water, when new to a
pond,
or
when
they feel cornered.

Keep an eye on him. Having the slime coat dried/scraped off
often
allows
bad bacteria to enter the skin and cause ulcers. I would use a
double
dose
of KoiZyme to try to prevent the start of infection, but if
infection
starts, post quickly and we will pick it up there.
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"_Lil_Lamb" wrote in message
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Is it
normal for koi to just jump like that? He had to have jumped
at
LEAST
6
feet, as there is
a ledge, and a shelf, plus the rocks around the edge.

If they jump like that, is there something I should do in the
future
to
discourage it?

I am not
sure if he is going to make it or not. If he does, I think I
will
rename
him Houdini.

Dee

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