"Roger Snipes" wrote in message
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I agree with Alan, just because the design of a bonsai is
transitory, that
doesn't mean it isn't art.


Guys, I never said it wasn't. A well-maintained bonsai can be
art. I have said that twice now (at least). But leave that tree
alone for 3-4 years and it becomes NOT art.

Read what I say, please. :-(


Jim, you also say that a painting (or a bonsai) must be "good"
to be art.
Is that "good" as defined only by you, or do other people's
definition of
"good" also make art? I have seen a lot of art that I don't
think is very
"good", as I suspect we all have, but others seem to like it
and consider it
to be art.

There is a consensus among those who make these decisions as to
what is "good." I would not spend a counterfeit nickle for
anything by Jackson Pollack. But somewhere there is a consensus
that he made art.

I never (AGAIN!) implied that it was MY definition of "good."
Among bonsaiests, there is a consensus that Kimura's trees are
"art." I don't particularly care for Kimura's work, but I won't
argue that it isn't art.

HOWEVER, Kimura's very "busy" trees probably would be the primary
example of a tree that, ignored for several years, soon would
deteriorate to something that no longer is art.

Speaking of "misdiagnosing . . . "

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase
'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman


Regards,
Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or
maybe Zone 6.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it,
misdiagnosing it,
and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx
(1895-1977)