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Old 20-10-2003, 08:12 AM
Nick Robin
 
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Default [IBC] Epsom salts

I would assume they are an ancient deposit of minerals on the site of the
current spring water, giving a liquid saline solution!
I could be wrong though!

Regards
Nick Rôbin
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Theo"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts


what are Epsom salts made of ?
Thanks
Theo

Nick Robin wrote:

For what it's worth, I live about 300 yards away from Epsom Well, which

is
where the first batch of Epsom salts came from!!
(But the gov. built a housing estate on top of it so it doesn't exist

any
more!- Just a small dummy well!)

Regards
Nick Rôbin
07747 635301


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Samuel Gomez"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts



First of all, want to thank XChris, Brent and Ray for their kind


suggestions.

The bougi I was talking about can be found at




http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ag...ast=1065336845

Jean-Christophe catalogued this chlorosis as a serious one, and Pipo
suggested that Jim's suggestion could work since the chlorosis appeared

on
mature leaves.

Ray wrote:


For what it's worth, my coast live oak (quercus agrifolia) became


chlorotic a

few months ago. Three treatments of half-strength Schultz Iron Green

(1/2
teaspoon per gallon) spaced at two week intervals cured the problem.

It's
15-0-0
liquid fertilizer with 4% sulfur and 6% water soluble iron. That may be

a
little
too much nitrogen for this late in the year. If you use it on your

boug,
let me
know how it responds. I have a boug sitting right next to my CLO. It's
doing OK
so far, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

When I first noticed some chlorosis I used Liquid Miracle Gro with


chelated

iron (8-7-6) but it did not work. Guess the problem was not lack of iron
but of magnesium.

Brent wrote:


Epsom salts will help with chlorosis if it is caused by a magnesium
deficiency.

From Jim's and Pipo's posts to the gallery, this seems to be the

problem.


Ordinarily, a good soluble with minor and trace elements will
contain enough Mg for most plants.

Normally I use Miracle Gro. Guess I will use also Miracid as suggested
below, but first I will try to correct the problem.


Additional Mg also has the interesting
effect of making foliage more glaucous (bluish).

Is this good for bougies?


Adding anything to a fertilizer solution can cause unwanted


precipitation,

mostly of phosphorus salts.

Sorry for this question but.. is this precipitation poisonous to the

tree?

Chris wrote:


If your chlorosis is chronic,

I have little experience with chlorosis, but According to

Jean-Christophe
this is a serious one.


I think you need trace elements of magnesium
and iron which Mir-Acid (same company) has but Miracle-Gro might lack.


Too

much salt can't be good, but the magnesium in Epsom salts allows a tree


to

use the iron which is available to it. Steve Pilacek once recommended

to

my

club that a bonsai with chlorosis receive water at a rate of 1

Tablespoon

of

Epsom salt for a 2 gallon container once a week for four weeks. Then,

he
recommended offering iron to cure chlorosis after the last Epsom salt
treatment. His presentation was on black pines, but his recipe did


wonders

for a 3" diameter juniper that was rapidly yellowing. Lots of folks


rotate

fertilizer using Miracle-Gro & Mir-Acid along with others to assure


feeding

trace elements.

Great!! Thanks for such valuable information. I will try it.

Best wishes





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