Hi all,

A couple of weeks ago I posted some pictures of a bouganvillea wich was
undergoing some chlorosis. Jim suggested to use epsom salts to correct this.
Epsom salts are used only to correct chlorosis or can be used also to
prevent it? Can it be mixed with Miracle-Gro? And if it can be used with
the fertilizer, how often should it be used? Jim suggested to use it just
twice during summer.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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For what it's worth, my coast live oak (quercus agrifolia) became chlorotic a
few months ago. Three treatments of half-strength Schultz Iron Green (1/2
teaspoon per gallon) spaced at two week intervals cured the problem. It's 15-0-0
liquid fertilizer with 4% sulfur and 6% water soluble iron. That may be a little
too much nitrogen for this late in the year. If you use it on your boug, let me
know how it responds. I have a boug sitting right next to my CLO. It's doing OK
so far, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Later
Ray Schmitt, Aliso Viejo, CA
Cold Hardiness Zone 10b
AHS Heat Zone 4
Sunset Climate Zone 22


----- Original Message -----
From: "Samuel Gomez"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:03 AM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts


Hi all,

A couple of weeks ago I posted some pictures of a bouganvillea wich was
undergoing some chlorosis. Jim suggested to use epsom salts to correct this.
Epsom salts are used only to correct chlorosis or can be used also to
prevent it? Can it be mixed with Miracle-Gro? And if it can be used with
the fertilizer, how often should it be used? Jim suggested to use it just
twice during summer.

Thanks in advance for your help.


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At 12:03 PM 10/16/03 -0600, Samuel wrote:
Hi all,

A couple of weeks ago I posted some pictures of a bouganvillea wich was
undergoing some chlorosis. Jim suggested to use epsom salts to correct this.
Epsom salts are used only to correct chlorosis or can be used also to
prevent it? Can it be mixed with Miracle-Gro? And if it can be used with
the fertilizer, how often should it be used? Jim suggested to use it just
twice during summer.

Samuel

Epsom salts will help with chlorosis if it is caused by a magnesium
deficiency. Ordinarily, a good soluble with minor and trace elements will
contain enough Mg for most plants. Additional Mg also has the interesting
effect of making foliage more glaucous (bluish).

I wouldn't add it with fertilizer, but rather as a separate treatment.
Adding anything to a fertilizer solution can cause unwanted precipitation,
mostly of phosphorus salts.


Brent in Northern California
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Hi Samuel.

I've been mulling over a question from Roger Seamon on public bonsai
collection maintenance for over a day... but your message I can respond to
more readily.
You ask re' Epsom salt,
... use only to correct chlorosis (or can it also
prevent it)? Can it be mixed with Miracle-Gro?

If your chlorosis is chronic, I think you need trace elements of magnesium
and iron which Mir-Acid (same company) has but Miracle-Gro might lack. Too
much salt can't be good, but the magnesium in Epsom salts allows a tree to
use the iron which is available to it. Steve Pilacek once recommended to my
club that a bonsai with chlorosis receive water at a rate of 1 Tablespoon of
Epsom salt for a 2 gallon container once a week for four weeks. Then, he
recommended offering iron to cure chlorosis after the last Epsom salt
treatment. His presentation was on black pines, but his recipe did wonders
for a 3" diameter juniper that was rapidly yellowing. Lots of folks rotate
fertilizer using Miracle-Gro & Mir-Acid along with others to assure feeding
trace elements.

Best wishes,
Chris... C. Cochrane, , Richmond VA

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First of all, want to thank XChris, Brent and Ray for their kind suggestions.

The bougi I was talking about can be found at

http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ag...ast=1065336845

Jean-Christophe catalogued this chlorosis as a serious one, and Pipo
suggested that Jim's suggestion could work since the chlorosis appeared on
mature leaves.

Ray wrote:

For what it's worth, my coast live oak (quercus agrifolia) became chlorotic a
few months ago. Three treatments of half-strength Schultz Iron Green (1/2
teaspoon per gallon) spaced at two week intervals cured the problem. It's
15-0-0
liquid fertilizer with 4% sulfur and 6% water soluble iron. That may be a
little
too much nitrogen for this late in the year. If you use it on your boug,
let me
know how it responds. I have a boug sitting right next to my CLO. It's
doing OK
so far, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

When I first noticed some chlorosis I used Liquid Miracle Gro with chelated
iron (8-7-6) but it did not work. Guess the problem was not lack of iron
but of magnesium.

Brent wrote:

Epsom salts will help with chlorosis if it is caused by a magnesium
deficiency.

From Jim's and Pipo's posts to the gallery, this seems to be the problem.

Ordinarily, a good soluble with minor and trace elements will
contain enough Mg for most plants.

Normally I use Miracle Gro. Guess I will use also Miracid as suggested
below, but first I will try to correct the problem.

Additional Mg also has the interesting
effect of making foliage more glaucous (bluish).

Is this good for bougies?

Adding anything to a fertilizer solution can cause unwanted precipitation,
mostly of phosphorus salts.

Sorry for this question but.. is this precipitation poisonous to the tree?

Chris wrote:

If your chlorosis is chronic,

I have little experience with chlorosis, but According to Jean-Christophe
this is a serious one.

I think you need trace elements of magnesium
and iron which Mir-Acid (same company) has but Miracle-Gro might lack. Too
much salt can't be good, but the magnesium in Epsom salts allows a tree to
use the iron which is available to it. Steve Pilacek once recommended to my
club that a bonsai with chlorosis receive water at a rate of 1 Tablespoon of
Epsom salt for a 2 gallon container once a week for four weeks. Then, he
recommended offering iron to cure chlorosis after the last Epsom salt
treatment. His presentation was on black pines, but his recipe did wonders
for a 3" diameter juniper that was rapidly yellowing. Lots of folks rotate
fertilizer using Miracle-Gro & Mir-Acid along with others to assure feeding
trace elements.

Great!! Thanks for such valuable information. I will try it.

Best wishes


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Speaking of fertilizers and trace elements and the like, (i realize
they're all different), what are some thoughts about Superthrive? I've
heard some outrageous claims, should i believe the hype?
thanks,

Justin

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I have been using SuperThrive in all of my non-flowering houseplants this summer. My plants grew twice the leave they had before SuperThrive and they look so healthy, including my 10 foot ficus tree is fuller than it ever has been with very little leaf dr
op.

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Superthrive contains about 0.1% vitamin B-1 (you can smell the stuff when you
open the bottle and the odor lingers on your skin if you're messy like I am),
and about 0.05% 1-napthayl acetic acid (NAA), a root hormone (synthetic auxin),
plus, I suppose, other secret ingredients. NAA is also found in Dip 'n Grow
liquid rooting concentrate (0.5%) and in Rootone (0.2%). Dip'n Grow also
contains 1% indole-3 butyric acid (IBA), another rooting hormone. I use the Dip
'n Grow carefully on my cuttings because the stuff is really concentrated.

I limit my use of Superthrive to stressed plants. As an experiment, last Labor
Day weekend I ruthlessly hard pruned and root pruned a pyracantha (completely
removed the foliage and berries), a xylosma, a euryops and a cotoneaster and
repotted them in 5" x 7"x 3.5" deep mica bonsai pots. The potting medium is (1)
Turface MVP, (1) Oil-Dri, (1) Supersoil potting mix, and (1) redwood compost,
all sieved +12/-4.

I used full strength Superthrive on these victims once per week. So far the
pyracantha is backbudding nicely, the euryops has a bunch of it's daisy-like
blooms going, and the other two plants look normal for this time of year. So, is
it the Superthrive? Who knows.

Later
Ray Schmitt, Aliso Viejo, CA
Cold Hardiness Zone 10b
AHS Heat Zone 4
Sunset Climate Zone 22




----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Diaz"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts


Speaking of fertilizers and trace elements and the like, (i realize
they're all different), what are some thoughts about Superthrive? I've
heard some outrageous claims, should i believe the hype?
thanks,

Justin


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HI I use it since 15 years regularly and all seems ok
I read also negative comments .. but how can we judge at home as all plants and
soils are different
I use it as an extra garantee.. it does not harm anyway and my pines maples azaleas
and orchids ar well ..
Theo

rschmitt23 wrote:

Superthrive contains about 0.1% vitamin B-1 (you can smell the stuff when you
open the bottle and the odor lingers on your skin if you're messy like I am),
and about 0.05% 1-napthayl acetic acid (NAA), a root hormone (synthetic auxin),
plus, I suppose, other secret ingredients. NAA is also found in Dip 'n Grow
liquid rooting concentrate (0.5%) and in Rootone (0.2%). Dip'n Grow also
contains 1% indole-3 butyric acid (IBA), another rooting hormone. I use the Dip
'n Grow carefully on my cuttings because the stuff is really concentrated.

I limit my use of Superthrive to stressed plants. As an experiment, last Labor
Day weekend I ruthlessly hard pruned and root pruned a pyracantha (completely
removed the foliage and berries), a xylosma, a euryops and a cotoneaster and
repotted them in 5" x 7"x 3.5" deep mica bonsai pots. The potting medium is (1)
Turface MVP, (1) Oil-Dri, (1) Supersoil potting mix, and (1) redwood compost,
all sieved +12/-4.

I used full strength Superthrive on these victims once per week. So far the
pyracantha is backbudding nicely, the euryops has a bunch of it's daisy-like
blooms going, and the other two plants look normal for this time of year. So, is
it the Superthrive? Who knows.

Later
Ray Schmitt, Aliso Viejo, CA
Cold Hardiness Zone 10b
AHS Heat Zone 4
Sunset Climate Zone 22


----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Diaz"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts

Speaking of fertilizers and trace elements and the like, (i realize
they're all different), what are some thoughts about Superthrive? I've
heard some outrageous claims, should i believe the hype?
thanks,

Justin


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For what it's worth, I live about 300 yards away from Epsom Well, which is
where the first batch of Epsom salts came from!!
(But the gov. built a housing estate on top of it so it doesn't exist any
more!- Just a small dummy well!)

Regards
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Samuel Gomez"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts


First of all, want to thank XChris, Brent and Ray for their kind
suggestions.

The bougi I was talking about can be found at


http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ag...ast=1065336845

Jean-Christophe catalogued this chlorosis as a serious one, and Pipo
suggested that Jim's suggestion could work since the chlorosis appeared on
mature leaves.

Ray wrote:

For what it's worth, my coast live oak (quercus agrifolia) became
chlorotic a
few months ago. Three treatments of half-strength Schultz Iron Green (1/2
teaspoon per gallon) spaced at two week intervals cured the problem. It's
15-0-0
liquid fertilizer with 4% sulfur and 6% water soluble iron. That may be a
little
too much nitrogen for this late in the year. If you use it on your boug,
let me
know how it responds. I have a boug sitting right next to my CLO. It's
doing OK
so far, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

When I first noticed some chlorosis I used Liquid Miracle Gro with
chelated
iron (8-7-6) but it did not work. Guess the problem was not lack of iron
but of magnesium.

Brent wrote:

Epsom salts will help with chlorosis if it is caused by a magnesium
deficiency.

From Jim's and Pipo's posts to the gallery, this seems to be the problem.

Ordinarily, a good soluble with minor and trace elements will
contain enough Mg for most plants.

Normally I use Miracle Gro. Guess I will use also Miracid as suggested
below, but first I will try to correct the problem.

Additional Mg also has the interesting
effect of making foliage more glaucous (bluish).

Is this good for bougies?

Adding anything to a fertilizer solution can cause unwanted
precipitation,
mostly of phosphorus salts.

Sorry for this question but.. is this precipitation poisonous to the tree?

Chris wrote:

If your chlorosis is chronic,

I have little experience with chlorosis, but According to Jean-Christophe
this is a serious one.

I think you need trace elements of magnesium
and iron which Mir-Acid (same company) has but Miracle-Gro might lack.
Too
much salt can't be good, but the magnesium in Epsom salts allows a tree
to
use the iron which is available to it. Steve Pilacek once recommended to
my
club that a bonsai with chlorosis receive water at a rate of 1 Tablespoon
of
Epsom salt for a 2 gallon container once a week for four weeks. Then, he
recommended offering iron to cure chlorosis after the last Epsom salt
treatment. His presentation was on black pines, but his recipe did
wonders
for a 3" diameter juniper that was rapidly yellowing. Lots of folks
rotate
fertilizer using Miracle-Gro & Mir-Acid along with others to assure
feeding
trace elements.

Great!! Thanks for such valuable information. I will try it.

Best wishes



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what are Epsom salts made of ?
Thanks
Theo

Nick Robin wrote:

For what it's worth, I live about 300 yards away from Epsom Well, which is
where the first batch of Epsom salts came from!!
(But the gov. built a housing estate on top of it so it doesn't exist any
more!- Just a small dummy well!)

Regards
Nick Rôbin
07747 635301

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Samuel Gomez"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts



First of all, want to thank XChris, Brent and Ray for their kind

suggestions.

The bougi I was talking about can be found at



http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ag...ast=1065336845

Jean-Christophe catalogued this chlorosis as a serious one, and Pipo
suggested that Jim's suggestion could work since the chlorosis appeared on
mature leaves.

Ray wrote:


For what it's worth, my coast live oak (quercus agrifolia) became

chlorotic a

few months ago. Three treatments of half-strength Schultz Iron Green (1/2
teaspoon per gallon) spaced at two week intervals cured the problem. It's
15-0-0
liquid fertilizer with 4% sulfur and 6% water soluble iron. That may be a
little
too much nitrogen for this late in the year. If you use it on your boug,
let me
know how it responds. I have a boug sitting right next to my CLO. It's
doing OK
so far, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

When I first noticed some chlorosis I used Liquid Miracle Gro with

chelated

iron (8-7-6) but it did not work. Guess the problem was not lack of iron
but of magnesium.

Brent wrote:


Epsom salts will help with chlorosis if it is caused by a magnesium
deficiency.

From Jim's and Pipo's posts to the gallery, this seems to be the problem.


Ordinarily, a good soluble with minor and trace elements will
contain enough Mg for most plants.

Normally I use Miracle Gro. Guess I will use also Miracid as suggested
below, but first I will try to correct the problem.


Additional Mg also has the interesting
effect of making foliage more glaucous (bluish).

Is this good for bougies?


Adding anything to a fertilizer solution can cause unwanted

precipitation,

mostly of phosphorus salts.

Sorry for this question but.. is this precipitation poisonous to the tree?

Chris wrote:


If your chlorosis is chronic,

I have little experience with chlorosis, but According to Jean-Christophe
this is a serious one.


I think you need trace elements of magnesium
and iron which Mir-Acid (same company) has but Miracle-Gro might lack.

Too

much salt can't be good, but the magnesium in Epsom salts allows a tree

to

use the iron which is available to it. Steve Pilacek once recommended to

my

club that a bonsai with chlorosis receive water at a rate of 1 Tablespoon

of

Epsom salt for a 2 gallon container once a week for four weeks. Then, he
recommended offering iron to cure chlorosis after the last Epsom salt
treatment. His presentation was on black pines, but his recipe did

wonders

for a 3" diameter juniper that was rapidly yellowing. Lots of folks

rotate

fertilizer using Miracle-Gro & Mir-Acid along with others to assure

feeding

trace elements.

Great!! Thanks for such valuable information. I will try it.

Best wishes




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Hi all,

At the beginning I thought I could find this in a drugstore. Thought it
could be some sort of medicine.
After searching in the net, I found it was heptahidrated magnesium sulfate,
which is available from any reagent dealer (even from a local one), and not
too expensive.

Best wishes to you all.


At 09:57 18/10/2003 +0200, Theo wrote:
what are Epsom salts made of ?
Thanks
Theo

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At 02:47 PM 10/18/03 -0600, you wrote:
Hi all,

At the beginning I thought I could find this in a drugstore. Thought it
could be some sort of medicine.
After searching in the net, I found it was heptahidrated magnesium sulfate,
which is available from any reagent dealer (even from a local one), and not
too expensive.

Samuel

It is available at any drugstore. It is used as a solution for soaking your
feet and probably other interesting remedies. It is very inexpensive buying
it that way (USP vs. reagent grade).


Brent in Northern California
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I would assume they are an ancient deposit of minerals on the site of the
current spring water, giving a liquid saline solution!
I could be wrong though!

Regards
Nick Rôbin
07747 635301

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Theo"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts


what are Epsom salts made of ?
Thanks
Theo

Nick Robin wrote:

For what it's worth, I live about 300 yards away from Epsom Well, which
is
where the first batch of Epsom salts came from!!
(But the gov. built a housing estate on top of it so it doesn't exist
any
more!- Just a small dummy well!)

Regards
Nick Rôbin
07747 635301


.................................................. ...........................
..................................................
----- Original Message -----
From: "Samuel Gomez"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: [IBC] Epsom salts



First of all, want to thank XChris, Brent and Ray for their kind

suggestions.

The bougi I was talking about can be found at




http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ag...ast=1065336845

Jean-Christophe catalogued this chlorosis as a serious one, and Pipo
suggested that Jim's suggestion could work since the chlorosis appeared
on
mature leaves.

Ray wrote:


For what it's worth, my coast live oak (quercus agrifolia) became

chlorotic a

few months ago. Three treatments of half-strength Schultz Iron Green
(1/2
teaspoon per gallon) spaced at two week intervals cured the problem.
It's
15-0-0
liquid fertilizer with 4% sulfur and 6% water soluble iron. That may be
a
little
too much nitrogen for this late in the year. If you use it on your
boug,
let me
know how it responds. I have a boug sitting right next to my CLO. It's
doing OK
so far, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

When I first noticed some chlorosis I used Liquid Miracle Gro with

chelated

iron (8-7-6) but it did not work. Guess the problem was not lack of iron
but of magnesium.

Brent wrote:


Epsom salts will help with chlorosis if it is caused by a magnesium
deficiency.

From Jim's and Pipo's posts to the gallery, this seems to be the
problem.


Ordinarily, a good soluble with minor and trace elements will
contain enough Mg for most plants.

Normally I use Miracle Gro. Guess I will use also Miracid as suggested
below, but first I will try to correct the problem.


Additional Mg also has the interesting
effect of making foliage more glaucous (bluish).

Is this good for bougies?


Adding anything to a fertilizer solution can cause unwanted

precipitation,

mostly of phosphorus salts.

Sorry for this question but.. is this precipitation poisonous to the
tree?

Chris wrote:


If your chlorosis is chronic,

I have little experience with chlorosis, but According to
Jean-Christophe
this is a serious one.


I think you need trace elements of magnesium
and iron which Mir-Acid (same company) has but Miracle-Gro might lack.

Too

much salt can't be good, but the magnesium in Epsom salts allows a tree

to

use the iron which is available to it. Steve Pilacek once recommended
to

my

club that a bonsai with chlorosis receive water at a rate of 1
Tablespoon

of

Epsom salt for a 2 gallon container once a week for four weeks. Then,
he
recommended offering iron to cure chlorosis after the last Epsom salt
treatment. His presentation was on black pines, but his recipe did

wonders

for a 3" diameter juniper that was rapidly yellowing. Lots of folks

rotate

fertilizer using Miracle-Gro & Mir-Acid along with others to assure

feeding

trace elements.

Great!! Thanks for such valuable information. I will try it.

Best wishes





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