On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 10:38:13 +1000, "Frank Martin"
wrote:

Please help, Frank

I would contact Loran Whitelock in Los Angeles, first, at Cycad
Gardens. i only know him for 28 years, but will still vouch for him, a
fine gentleman, honest and KNOWLEDGEABLE about a great many things.
Tell him I sent you.
After that, oh, Phil Bergman would be a good one to try.
if you want more detail,
write to

I do not have this, but i know people who do.

it is a fast grower, and a prolific producer of pups, which have been
costing about a thousand dollars for the past 30 years.

herm