"Daniel Hanna" wrote
Shiva wrote:
This is a wonderful rose, introduced 1997 and discontinued after
1999. I saw it in bloom, and almost bought it. But not quite ...
one of my few rosy regrets.

You mean J&P are discarding roses after only 3 years now?
What vandals. Luckily it hasn't been lost from commercial
cultivation (yet).

See eg http://treloar-roses.com.au/files/pure_poetry.htm

Another J&P veteran (just bought one for $5 at a Home
Despot, on Dr. Huey): Pin~ata (yeah, that tilde should be over
the N, but I forget how to do that). It's a climber, with bright
red-orange blooms with yellow centers, usually the sort of thing
I think ugly, but it's strangely appealing. Despite the name, it's a
Seizo Suzuki rose from Japan, introduced 1978, says helpmefind.

Seems to be disease-prone, and it hasn't much fragrance; mine
has spots on most leaves that look like the start of black spot,
so I sprayed it with peroxide (quart in a gallon, twice as strong
as usual) in the hope of at least killing any spores. I plan to take
cuttings (if I can get some that aren't infested with whatever)
and try it on its own roots, as I haven't had the happiest experience
with Dr. Huey roots in this climate. (I was at another Home Despot
the other day, grousing about that, and another customer from
slightly south of me claimed that he had never had the least trouble
with cheap grafted roses in his 9a, pure-sand soil...beats me. Maybe
he's just a better gardener.)

I wonder whether Pure Poetry (oh, that name cries out for parody!
Pureed Poultry! Impure Poetry) has similar flaws. But a user
comment on helpmefind says it doesn't get black spot or mildew,
whereas Pin~ata's entry says that Pin~ata is indeed prone to mildew.
It's a mystery why it'd get dumped by J&P, but it's a mystery to me
why they gave a Suzuki rose a very un-Japanese name.

Mark., no frost yet in my bit of zone 8b, knock rose cane