Hello and Good Day,
Michael,

I think the - from seed - part is when dealing with
a tree/shrub that actually thickens in the trunk.

I keep planting the seeds of the smallest leafed
fukien tea,in the black pine pot[ they actually
germinate there,why I don't know???],but after
6 years and pots the size of say 4 x 4 x 3',actually
a half of a 400 gal.water tank.

I still have PENCIL sized trunks and these shrubs
are at times over 3 to 4' in spread.

So I tell folk I am seriously working on a super
collection of flowering and fruiting mame',chuckle.

Much the same for Sparrow Plums[Sageretia Theesans]
after 11 years plus,and rampant growth 1" is the thickest
trunk I have achieved.Rampant is branches/vines over
14' long.
This shrub also has the special problem of large cuts,say
over 1/2" never healing.The wood rots easily as well,makes
for great compost material.

Now tamarinds,buttonwoods,seagrapes,hah,easy as peas.
Stay Well,
Khaimraj
[West Indies/Caribbean]

*Now our eastern seacoast is nippy,looking for ice on the
horizon.
I am always amazed how a little darkness ushers in so
much cold.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Persiano
To:
Date: 29 January 2004 8:14
Subject: [IBC] Shimpaku Itiogawa juniper


In a message dated 1/29/2004 7:12:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:

snip
Brent raises an important point: how quickly can one expect to develop a
convincing trunk to support the bonsai illusion?

I see many folks asking questions about developing specimens for bonsai
culture from seed. I envy your patience. );-)

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
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