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Old 20-03-2004, 01:42 PM
David J Bockman
 
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Default Which shrubs to choose?


"Suja" wrote in message
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David J Bockman wrote:

Fine tree, but almost all of the palmatums do better in dappled

sunshine.
Certain varieties like 'Bloodgood' and 'Crimson Queen' tolerate full

sun,
but still will bronze out a bit.


I do have an East facing location near the house that might be better
for this. I was also considering a Sango Kaku to complete a triad of
trees, but the area is most definitely full sun, and now I think I
should go back to my default, a standard weeping cherry.


Being the nosy enthusiast type, I'll suggest trying to find Prunus
subhirtella 'Pendula' not on a standard, but growing on its own rootstock.
MUCH more picturesque as the tree ages.

All Camellia should have early morning sun protection and if possible,

high
shade at mid day-- under tall pines for example is a great spot.


Why early morning protection? This one will probably go against the
house, on the East side. I believe that it will have shade early on
because of all the other trees that are near it.


All Camelias, even the more winter-hardy Ackerman hybrids such as 'Winter's
Interlude', are susceptible to early morning 'leaf blast' when temperatures
dip below freezing and subsequently the leaves are exposed to early morning
direct sun. The thick leaves retain a lot of moisture which needs time to
thaw under warming air temperatures, not direct sunlight, or else the cell
walls rupture and the leaf blackens and dies.

Picta must have good to deep shade. The shadier the better.


I realize that it likes some shade, but didn't think that it needed
heavy shade. I have a fairly good (and long) treeline, and can use this
to underplant, but I do want it where I can see it, and that might
defeat the purpose.


Don't need heavy shade per se, but any substantial length of direct sun
(say, more than 2-3 hours, less if at midday) will scorch.

Lovely.


What I've read suggests that it might be marginally hardy in this area.
Do you know if that is a problem?


(With regard to Magnolia seiboldii) I haven't seen it grown in our area all
that often, doesn't mean it won't do well here. Dirr lists it as Zones 6-8,
so it should be fine. The best location would be 'semi-shady', strong
dappled sunshine.

I don't know a 'Compacta', there is a 'Compactum' that is supposed to be

a
fine dwarf variety. Not being anal, just make sure you are getting the

shrub
you want.


That's what FF called it.
http://www.forestfarm.com/search/clo...lantID=vica041


Hmm..Perhaps it's a Forest Farm introduction or they just misspelled
slightly. Looks lovely.

Any ideas on where I can get all this stuff? I am hoping to find
sources locally (I'll check Merrifield and Betty's) so that I don't have
to pay FF's shipping charges.


Yes, two good places to start. You can get their fax numbers and just fax
the whole list over, they can call you back or return fax availability and
prices. Best not to do it on a weekend, however. Unless you spec out the
exact sizes and 'styles' of each tree/shrub you are looking for, you'll get
whatever they have (for example, if you went with my suggestion on the
Prunus, and didn't spec 'own rootstock', you'd most likely get a standard.)

Dave