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Old 19-05-2004, 04:08 PM
Janet
 
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Default Pump/filtering the basics???????

You really don't need to use a pool pump for a 3 foot lift. We are using a
Laguna Powerjet 7000 (pumps 2142 US GPH) to pump to our top pond and run our
stream. Our lift is about 6 feet. We have it set up with a diverter and
don't run it full tilt. On the weekend we ran across a Mag Drive rated at
1150 GPH that our local aquarium store was willing to part with for under
$100. Remember too, pool pumps are far from energy efficient! We run the
ponds and stream 24/7 all year and never notice it on the hydro bill. We
open the pool and I see that pump on the hydro bill! O (Definitely a
concern with hydro rates going up in Ont)
Janet in Niagara Falls with fish spawning *again*


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"The~Doofie~Man©" wrote in message
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Ancaster/ Hamilton area.
I was thinking of using an old pool pump I can get my hands on. Just valve
the in & outlets. Have the hose in the pond in a filter cage. Leave my
Becket in water pump for the winter months. I take it I just remove the
extensions from the base of the filter box so its as close to the bottom

as
possible yet still circulating the water.
As for the pool pump I'd have to fiddle with it to get the right gph flow.

I
don't wanna suck up the plants & fish. I doubt it will tell me on the

pump.
My next step would be to track down the manufacturer with the model number
to find this info out. Is a pool pump wrong to use for the fact it is not

a
submersible pump, and has oiled bearings?
I really don't feel like buying another pump when I just forked out X

amount
for a pond kit.
These kits seem like a good buy but when you dig deeper than the 1' it

says
it can handle yer "foo-bared."
Yes I'm trying to cheat my cheap as outta buying a new pond pump to handle

a
3' rise. I'm talking some serious $$ for that.
And before I forget. Do all these submersible pond pumps have to placed in
some sort of filter box so they don't clog? I'm sure not all come with

them
just the pump itself & the housing it sits in.

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"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
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Nope - over filtering is not a problem - actually it's better, you don't
need to clean it as often as compared to a smaller one - where in S.

Ont.
are you?
Gale :~)

"The~Doofie~Man©" wrote in message
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Okay folks I got the basics down. I had to put a new liner in the

other
day
cause I'm a friggin Gump & had water go behind the liner after I re

did
the
water fall. (That waterfall looked sweet too) I learned my lesson the

hard
way I guess. I re did the ledges as well. The old liner will be used

for
another pond I'll make in another corner of the backyard.

Here's my questions.
I have a ****y little Becket pump. Its rated 300 gph at 1" lift. I

have
about a 3' lift with the falls. This puts the GPH at about 70-85 gph.

I
gotta have a better filter rate than this correct. I'm a plumber &

can
get
a Grundfos recirculating pump off a fellow ass crack shower for free.

I
was
thinking this pump (out of water) should do the trick, even if I use

it
in
conjunction with the underwater pump. Its oilless so its safe to use.

AS
far
as the lift rate I'm working on finding that out. It has to be greater

than
the Becket pump. I bought a 500gph filter as well. I haven't installed

it
yet cause I'm still waiting to get the pump off my co-worker. My main
question is, do I really need to have a filter? I'm assuming plants

and
&
good pump(s) doesn't always do the trick. Is there such a thing as

over
filtering?
Also the deepest part of the pond to the top of the water level is 2'.

I
live in Southern Ontario, will the fish & plants make it through the

winter
in the pond?

One thing I've learned is that pond kits are not worth the $$.

Thanks for all the advice in advance people!!!!

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The~Doofie~Man ©
"LET ME SEE YOUR CIGARETTE LIGHTERS!!!!!"
Putting the fun back in FUNeral!!
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