In a message dated 7/24/2004 12:22:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
This is not an uncommon problem in Japanese naming. Until recently, it
appears that Japanese nurseryman did not fully subscribe to Western notions
of cultivars, and thus there are generic type names for groups of clones
with similar characteristics. I don't have any hard evidence for this, it
is just my conclusion after trying to track down many cultivar names as you
doing. I wish we had more Japanese members who could shed some light on
this situation.
Brent speaks the truth. My "Nire" Elms were identified by a Japanese
Nurseryman--who may very well be on the mark with respect to what they are.
Verifying the specific cultivar would undoubtedly be difficult. Hara-nire generally
refers to Ulmus davidiana, Aki-nire, Ulmus parvifolia . . .

Regardless, we all need to place our horticultural proclivities in focus: if
the MATERIAL works for bonsai creation, and we are PLEASED with the artistic
creation, such concerns, at least in my mind, become incidental to the final
product. );-)

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
Coming off of a 10-hour intensive Bonsai Weekend at the Persiano Studio.
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