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Old 26-07-2004, 10:03 PM
David Soukal
 
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Default [IBC] sudden increase of leaf loss of our fukien tree

Hello Jim,

thanks for the tip. As I wrote elsewhere in this thread the whole soil
business is unfortunate. I'm very glad that you told me the mixture is
not good. I'm so relieved. I would have bought it and repotted the
tree into it!

Next time, I'll be extra careful. I already ordered a bunch of books
on bonsai that were recommened on the International Bonsai Club
website, so I hope nothing like that will happen again.

Thank you also for helping me find the Bonsai clubs. I'll carefully
look around. The people from the garden shop my wife bought the Fukien
in told me that they get their plants on-line. We have some "expert"
on bonsai who takes care of them. I'll talk to him today.

Thank you again!

David



(Jim Lewis) wrote in message news:001701c472b7$b16b5700$3b112cc7@pavilion...
Regarding the soil. We bought it in nearby garden shop as

bonsai soil.
The truth is it does not look like the rest of the soil in the

pot. It
does resemble (on touch, look) the layer that was there before,

that
is the clay pieces... As I wrote elsewhere in this thread, we

draw our
information on the book "Simon & Schuster's Guide to Bonsai".

Their
ideal mixture for *repotting* is 60% humus-rich soil, 10% peat

and 30%
of coarse sand. Since we removed about an inch of the top

layer, we
thought we'd replace it by the mixture above but its

composition is
quite different. I'm getting a bit confused here...


Oh, aaargh! ONE of the problem with bonsai books is that they're
written everywhere and translated into everything, and that does
lead to confusion.

S&SGtB was written in Italy and later translated into English --
possibly by someone who has never grown (or maybe even seen) a
bonsai. Heaven only knows what the original text said, but the
translator gave you 70% humus -- which isn't a very good idea,
since humus is rotting leaves, worm casing, etc. -- ORGANIC --
stuff, which rots and gets mushier and mushier. The peat also is
organic and comes in MANY forms (most of them not suited for
bonsai soil in any great amount) and "coarse" sand varies
according to one's definition of "coarse" (of course). I have
the book, but haven't paid attention to the soil bit since I got
it well after I'd killed my share of trees for this or that
stupid reason.

So. Your tree should be planted in the soil you bought as
"bonsai soil," assuming it is at least 50 percent baked clay and
30 percent pine bark and 20 percent coarse sand (or, 70-30
clay-sand or clay-bark) with NO mushy humus.

I don't remember where you live, but there are bonsai clubs in
surprising locations. Goto
www.absbonsai.org or to
www.bonsai-bci.com and find their pages that list clubs in N.
America. There's probably one near you.

Failing that, send Carl Rosner an e-mail (he answered one of your
earlier questions and have him walk you though the art of
transplanting a Fukien tea into good bonsai soil. Or, seeing as
how that garden shop handles something called bonsai soil maybe
that's an indication somewhere there knows something about
bonsai?????????????

Go also to www.internebonsaiclub.org, click on the "knowledge
base" and read some of the articles there -- especially the one
about soils.

As far as news readers go, I don't do newsgroups too often (I
read these messages via the linked e-mail list) but do a google
search for free and newsgroups and see what pops up.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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