curiosity wrote
"...........on the other hand..... your suggested S.greggii group also
reveals some equally close likenesses. (this is tricky isn't it?....I must
learn not to be so hasty ......."

That is why I said to smell the leaves, several look the sane but have a
different smell, most notible is Pineapple sage, just like the "pineapple
chunks" of old.

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David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk