By F1, I mean that it is the first filial generation produced in
cultivation. By this standard, mom and dad would be F0 wild types. Progeny
from these two would be F1, first filial. Subsequent progeny with similar
ancestry would be F2, and so on.

This is the terminology I use, and understand to be correct. I use
it with reference to transgenic plants, and perhaps other fields use it in
a different context.

In any event, if the question is have Phal. javanica seedlings
been produced in cultivation- the answer is certainly yes. Without seeing
the plants in flask, it's impossible to tell. While the plants I received
weren't in flask, they were all the same tiny size, with perfect leaves
and intact roots. To have them come from the wild would be most unlikely-
not to mention the proud stork that brought them is a fine propagator.

I cannot speak specifically to the origins of any plant you may
have bought; far as I know, all phal species have been grown from seed in
the lab. The cost of these plants relative to wild-collected may be
higher, of course, but plants are generally much more likely to survive,
depending upon how well-established each would be. I prefer lab-grown over
wild any day of the week, as establishing wild-collected can be iffy at
best.

Along the same lines, phals in cultivation today are far divested
from parent species. With generation times of 5-7 years (and less, with
unproven, first-flower parents), some could be well over 10 generations in
cultivation. Anyone care to wildcatt a popular, recent hybrid for me as a
demo? Anyway- it would be interesting to compare the ease with which F1
phals germinate and grow, versus their great-great-great...grandchildren.

What do you think, Mick? You do a lot of fine phal species. Any of
them cantankerous from seed- particularly with regards to how many
generations away from wild-type they are?

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Cheers,

-AJHicks
Chandler, AZ