"Robert E A Harvey" wrote in message
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There are rumours among meterological types that it might be a cold
hard winter (latitude of north atlantic wave, seawater temperature
differentials, Canadian jetstream direction, etc.) and I wondered if
anyone on the group had any views?

It's certainly a good year for berries round here, which is one of the
oldest of old men's tales. But I've noticed that we no longer get
seagulls inland when storms occur, so maybe the old wisdom is dented?

ANyone got twinges in thier corns, early/late plant dormancy, earliest
frosts, insects hibernating or any other suggestions about what lies
ahead?

The weather men can not give an accurate forecast for a particular spot for
12 hours ahead I don't think I shall pay much attention to them for a whole
winter! and mild and cold mean different things to different people, I
thought last winter was the worst in 20 years, overall it may not have had
lots of cold days but it had the sharpest frost late on and it did the most
damage and I lost the most plants. wind wise it was however quite quiet with
only a couple of storms above 80 mph

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Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)