the crown looks normal, leaves are healthy, and there's nothing that looks
like a keiki.

one is a phal. baldan's kaleidescope ('golden treasure' iirc), and the other
is p. mwafeng redjewel x dtps. taisuco firebird.
i guess the dtps. background would explain it then. does anyone know offhand
if baldan's kaleidescope has dtps in it?

thanks so much for the responses.
--mo--