Maybe I'm dreaming...S Cal is a little too hot and unfathomable (for
other reasons) for me. What about outside of the US? Inside the US,
what about N. Calif., or somewhere midline between Wash. State and S
Cal? It looks like the weather in San Fran and that area is too cool.
I'm interested in traditional plants, i.e. roses, peonies, foxglove,
hellebore, clematis. I guess those are cottage garden type plants -
however I'm open to different types of plants, other than succulents,
cacti, and things that grow in the desert. Not my thing, although
beautiful. Again, is there such a place, or am I dreaming? Thanks
for your response! PS - I can deal with some black spot/mildew, etc.
Just not constantly!!! db

dave weil wrote in message . ..
On 22 Oct 2004 04:07:23 -0700, in rec.gardens.roses you wrote:

I'm thinking of relocating and have always dreamed of living somewhere
where I can grow roses without tons of black spot, mildew, etc. I
currently live in the Pacific NW, and while it's beautiful here, I'd
love to live in a moderate to warm climate where I can have outdoor
rooms to entertain in, and grow old fashioned flowers, vegetables,
etc. However, I'm not a big fan of extremely hot weather, so I'm
stymied. To make it even more difficult, I have always lived near
fresh or salt water and can't imagine not being near a major waterway
or ocean. So, with all that difficult criteria, any ideas where I
should be researching? Thanks for any of your thoughts! db

If you're only talking about the US, I think that the only place that
really fits all of your requirements is Southern California. I don't
think they have much trouble with blackspot there, although I could be
wrong.

Of course, you're going to have to pony up to live there...but the
upside is that you don't need very much in terms of heating and
cooling costs relative to the rest of us.