Hi Bob,
Many thanks for all the useful advice, now I have even more questions I'm
afraid! The pond we inherited is about 7 years old so the "Koi" seem to have
been ok in their existing environment, longer term (end of 05) I'd like to
dig the pond out so the advice I need is to get the appropriate pump and
filters that will work today and also in the future.
Where do I get a CH pump from? Do I need a CH pump for heating and an
ordinary pump for the filters? Is a CH pump energy effecient as I've seen
some inexpensive (aka cheap) pumps running crazy currents so NOT a good idea
24/7.
Also, if I got for the system I indicated on my orgininal post I wonder
whether using an standard box filter with the EcoClear 18000 would work as
the EcoClear is a pressurised system or would that make no difference?
Can I also get new materials for my existing filter should I wish to
continue using it?
kind regards,
Richard
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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"Richard Kerry" wrote
I am new to the pond world (complete beginner so please excuse my
ignorance)
as I recently moved and inherited a 11ft * 11ft * 2ft pond full with
about a
dozen or so Koi carp, largest fish about 16 inches in length. The pump
has
given up and the filter seemed permanently clogged up, even after
cleaning
the internal (pads) every week. I have also noticed that the pond has a
lot
of "silt" in it even though the water is clean, it currently has a UV box
which now doesn't work as the pump is not working.
Firstly never say Koi carp, it marks you out as someone who isn't a Koi
keeper. It's short for Nishikigoi, which means Japanese Imperial Carp, you
are therefor simply saying carp carp, there are no koi that arn't carp.
Your pond is also full so don't be tempted to increase your stock. We have
only 9 fish in 3,000 gals, they get big especially is given the space.
I would like to change the setup but don't have a huge amount of money to
do
this, so I'd really appreciate some advice...So my questions are as
follows
(apologies I have a number of queries!)
1. From what I have read the pond is too shallow (is it?) and needs to be
at
least 4 ft in depth for Koi? If this is the case then I presumably would
have to remove the fish to a temporary setup (holding tank? any ideas on
how
this is done?) dig the pond out deeper and replace with a new liner?
Could I
use my existing pond for this season as is and make the changes regarding
pond depth when finances allow?
It is too shallow but I have kept Koi for over 20 years in a pond only 1
meter deep so it will depend on where you are. The colder the area the
deeper it needs to be, a deep pond also exercises the fish more, 5ft is
good.
I've seen 9ft deep Koi ponds but then they were well over 10,000 gals with
filters to match.
They should be OK for this season, they have been OK in there until now
anyway.
You would need a large net and a proper holding pond which I have seen
available (don't use an above ground swimming pool as the liner is
chemically treated). You will get very wet catching them, and they are
very strong animals. Best to cover the holding pond with a close fitting
net as they can jump out.
2. Should I get the pond cleared of the silt? How would I do this - using
a
pond vac? Can you hire a pond vac?
I use an old swimming pool pump and "hoover" but the small strainer basket
does clog up often if the pond is dirty. Never as dirty as your's by the
sound of it. :-)
3. What would be a good/inexpensive pump & filter combination? I have
looked
on the web and it's a bit of a minefield of information, some people seem
to
advise on a using a Vortex chamber setup or is this only for
professionals?
What filter/pump would work with my existing setup as well as allowing
for
the increase in pond depth at a later date?
I originally made my own filters out of water tanks but then these big
filters weren't available commercially then. A vortex chamber is good as
it removes the larger solids which can then be drained off to waste
easily.
With a hoover, your pond won't be too dirty if you clean it a few times
ever year so I'm not convinced a vortex chamber is strictly necessary.
These filters work by allowing aerobic bacteria to colonise the filter
medium and it's these bacteria that break down the fish waste into less
harmfull chemicals. Clear water is not necessarily clean water. For this
reason, once started they shouldn't be turned off or the bacteria will die
causing more problems when eventually restarted.
I use, as do a lot of koi keepers, a central heating pump but these have
to be kept dry and below water level (outside the pond in a seperate
rain-proof chamber) as they won't suck water up but will push it up as
high as you like. They are cheap comparitively, much cheaper to run, very
very reliable and there is no electricity in the pond.
Take a look at this site, it has lots of usefull information, although
remember they are retaillers so they don't mention the cheaper CH pump
alternative I mention above. Always get a bigger filter than is strictly
necessary, koi are the pigs of the fish world and produce a lot of muck.
http://www.worldofwater.com/main.htm
4. I found a setup that looked interesting after doing some calcs on my
pond
size, this was using the Hozelock Ecoclear 18000 with a Titan 12000
pump -
is this a good setup? This also looks good as I don't need a gravity feed
filter so can site this setup away from the pond, but the filters (2 of
them) do look a little small compared to my existing big filter box?
Hozelock haven't got a name for pumps so they are probably someone elses
renamed. Oase are makers of fine in-pond pumps and filters etc.
5. Could I also use my existing filter box (3 stage) with the new
Hozelock
Ecoclear 18000 with a Titan 12000 pump system in line for extra
filtering?
Yes, excellent idea, I have 4 tanks in line starting with brushes then
three with foam. Horrid to clean out each spring though, full of filthy
black sludge which is very strong, fertilizer wise.
6. Any recommendations on suppliers? I found Grovelands Online
(www.grovelands.com) and their prices look great. I am based in
Hampshire.......
Good grief! Just looked at the price of your pump. That's the price of
about 3 x Grundfoss 3 speed CH pumps !!!! So according to my experience
about 30+ years of pumps working 24/7.
If you can't design in a CH pump do take a look at Oase pumps.
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Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London