Yes, there are those rule breakers who start by
pulling the wings off a fly and escalate to wife
beating, but it's ok as long as they don't get caught.
One does not have to live in a police state to see
there are rights and wrongs. If you work with nature,
you should respect nature.

BLue Hippo indicatd he owned the land and that the
plants in question were to be gonners anyway. I think
he asked a responsible question in the beginning, what
could he collect that had a chance of living. He did
not ask to break the rules.

Would you then also break the rules and place an
infant out in the hot sun just becasue you could get
away with it, because it was yours? Where do you draw
the line at rule breaking? Only if you get caught?

Kits
--- Jo Trojer wrote:
I am just being realistic Jim! IMO it is the same
as getting a parking ticket! Sometimes you take a
chance and if you get caught you pay a fine. If it
is private property then it is easy, you go to the
owner and ask but when it comes to government owned
property (not a protected area or plant) then going
through the bureaucratic BS is more often than not,
not worth the trouble! I bet there are loads on this
list that have gone for a walk and saw a beauty and
instead of going through all the channels have taken
it home…. Just IMHO. Kick me off the list if you
must but freedom of speech is supposed to be a right
to all, or am I being too radical?

BTW, I guess in America you have such a “police
state” that the fear of the authorities are deeply
embedded in your sub-conscious.

PS: Coaching my or any other rugby team, you test
the referee by bending/breaking the laws of the game
and if the referee penalizes you for being off-side
then you stop going off-side, same with many other
laws the referee is supposed to look at and after a
few minutes the team can then play to the referee
and thus get an edge in the match! I am also a
qualified referee and know that teams do this, that
is why I am very strict at the start and after a few
penalties they start playing to the laws.

Jo

Von: Jim Lewis

wrote:
Or, just don't get caught! And if you do, pay
the fine )

Jo


Are you REALLY encouraging someone to take a
criminal
action? Is that what you teach your team?

Nice guy!

Just FYI, but if I were still managing the list,
you'd now
be off it.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL
- IBC
list manager emeritus



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