zxcvbob wrote:

Paul E. Lehmann wrote:
Greysky wrote:


"Wolf Kirchmeir" wrote in message
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We bought some locally grown grapes at the farmers' market. Sour little
things, but my wife made a cobbler with them that tastes very good (she
added apples.) The grapes also make an excellent jelly.

I've saved some of the seeds, and would like some advice on growing
grapevines of my own using these seeds.

TIA.

Shouldn't be too hard. Around here, (northern calif.), grape plants come
up
as seeds all the time. They are treated ass weeds, and pulled. I'd say
just stick the seed in the dirt and keep moist. You will probably see some
action next season... as to what fruit a wild grape will produce, is
anyone's guess. But give it a try - you might discover a new variety!


Grapes do not produce true from seed. That is why they are always grown
from cuttings. They can be grown from seed but it is anyone's guess as to
what will grow. Grape vines are not that expensive so if one finds a
variety that is desired, the best thing to do is buy a grafted cutting.


I live so far north, there's not a lot of grape varieties to choose
from. I've found a few wild grape seedlings coming up in the flower
beds and I wonder how much they would produce if I transplanted them to
a trellis and pruned them properly?

How many years would it take before I got that first pitiful little
harvest so I could tell if the fruit was any good?
2nd or 3rd year from a cutting. I had no problem getting fruit in the
2nd season.

From my all too rough understanding, you get grapes on the
canes/branches that grew the previous season. I started with 2 year,
12-18" bare root vines(Burpee.com). The first year they just vined,
very healthly, and aggressive. The second year they grew excessively,
too much so as I constantly cut them and they still covered the little
back porch of the house. I got quite a few grapes, but too many
clusters and not fully developed. Also suffered a lot of powdery
mildew.

Some are finally sweetened. I could tell cause I have two or the
larger birds going after the fruit every day.

If they were awful,
shouldn't I be able to graft a good variety onto the wild roots and have
bearing vines in another 2 years?

Best regards,
Bob

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
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