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Old 04-05-2006, 11:22 PM posted to rec.gardens.roses
Gail Futoran
 
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"Tiger303" wrote in message
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i've bought a David austin queen of denmark as a present for a friend
whose house we recently stayed in Atlanta Georgia.


Nice gift!

Do you mean Queen of Sweden?
Queen of Denmark is listed at www.helpmefind.com
as either an 1826 Alba or an 1826 Damask.
The same site lists Queen of Sweden as a recent
David Austin offering.

this rose is recommended for shady positions so its going near to a
north wall.


Roses do best with 6 hours of sunlight. Some
roses can do with less, but generally no less than
4 hours. Was this "recommendation" on the
tag, or from some other source?

as its going to be planted this month, should he cut back the new
growth when planting or should he cut below the new growth when
planting


I assume it's in a pot. I generally don't cut back
unless the top growth is so unwieldly that I'd
damage the rose (or me!) getting it into the hole.

If the pot is a thin-sided black plastic pot like
USA nurseries typically use, I handle it like this:
-slit off the bottom with a razor or sharp knife
-make 3 slits about half-way up from the bottom,
evenly spread around the pot (make sure the
soil doesn't fall out at this point!)
-put the rose in the hole and get the level right
(not too deep, not too shallow). Once that's done,
pile dirt around the pot halfway and firm. Water
to settle the soil.
-Slit the pot the rest of the way up and carefully
remove the pieces. Finish piling in the dirt and
water thoroughly.

i ask this as i've read roses establish better (especially in hot
southern us summer) if cut back when planted. also how far should he
plant from the wall?


Walls reflect heat, even north facing walls. So
unless he wants to have to water more than usual,
I'd go out far enough that there is sufficient space
for air circulation. Keep in mind the *mature* size
of the plant. Queen of Sweden (if that is indeed the
rose you purchased) is listed as reaching a maximum
height of 100 cm.
General rule #1: Plant at least half the mature height from
other shrubs or objects.
General rule #1 exception: Some roses are wider
than they are tall, so plant based on the mature width.

General rule #2: Remember that he'll have to
prune the rose etc. so if he can't easily get to
the back of it, it could be a problem in the future.
Queen of Sweden appears to be a small bush, so
access probably won't be a problem.

i'm assuming other than that i just recommend he plants below the graft
point, in a hole with well rotted manure dug in, and a sprinkling of
rose fertiliser. and ensure he gives its a deep soak with water once a
week


In the south it's better to plant the bud union
*above* ground level. In the north USA the
bud union is generally planted below ground level.

Do not fertilize when you plant a rose. Wait until
the rose is established, growing, and has had an
initial bloom. Then you can fertilize it. Otherwise
the prepared soil should be sufficient. The best
thing you can do for a newly planted rose, other
than good soil, is what you said: water it well. But
also make sure there is good drainage. Roses don't
like it when their roots stand in water for long.

Mention that if he sees any canes growing from
*below* the bud union, to pull them off. They
would be coming from the rootstock, which
tends to be more rigorous than the scion - the
top part of the rose. Rootstocks can take over
a bush.

apprecaite your help


HTH
Gail
near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8