Rob & Sue,
You're both making too much sense. Will address specific points tomorrow,
but for now, I think our first order of business is to shake the lint out of
the system we've been using. Wildcat, of course, we use, and we have the
necessary research materials. What's needed is a more coordinated effort
between the various local societies which participate, and less egomania
amongst the registrars in all our societies.
More tomorrow, and thanks!
Diana
"Susan Erickson" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:05:32 -0500, Rob Halgren
wrote:
Diana Kulaga wrote:
All,
At our last society show last weekend, there were numbers of plants
incorrectly categorized. One upshot was 3 identical plants taking blue
ribbons (registered in three different categories).
Here only the plant in the correct class could get a blue. The
other could get moved to the correct class or ignored - depending
on the judging team.
Rob said --------
One of the things we do is have some experienced judges helping with
registration. We know what the most common errors are, and can often
fix them without even looking at the plants. We always have a copy (or
two) of Wildcatt going, and we look up every plant (that isn't a
species). If a plant is registered as just the hybrid name, we will
write down the cross on the registration tag before we give them back to
the exhibitors.
We run Wildcatt and we have that cross list of species to class
data on a searchable form (Excel) as well as having a copy of it
and of the judging schedule in a binder on the table.
The people that ask or check with the registration crew are not
the problems. The problems are the people who "know the class"
and enter their plants with out looking at the schedule. It is
tweaked before each and every show. We had 3 Lc Trick or Treat x
sib entered. The one that got an AOS award later that day did not
get judged. They had entered it in the wrong class.
Some judges scan the forms before judging and some do not. The
head Judge for the show scans the entire database and tries to
catch the typo and obvious errors. I am not as great on spelling
as some Registrars. Yes, we use Access to create a readable
printed list. I have judged Rob's folders and sticky tape
holding entries that were not readable. Our way you can have a
clean list for each judge and clerk. They all say the same thing.
If a judge moves a plant to a later class - everyone can make a
note of it. But they still have a readable list. I have used
both systems (came from Mid-America) and I vote for Access.
Push a button I can have another copy if your team has more
judges. You want to re-organize it - just talk to me at the end
of registration. I will print a list. You can re-class anything
you want.
Sometimes the judges split a class because things are too
diverse.
I agree with ROB we need to have a "head judge" scan each team's
selection and re-class anything that is in the wrong place. But
some Show Judging Chair's think that it is a learning experience.
They think writing the note will help you learn. Trouble is the
committee that gets the show ready for the general public is apt
to clean up the tags and there goes the note.
I have problems with people entering for their society without
being registered as a member of the society. So I have no local
to list for their plant or name to ID the owner if they win.
Handwriting - that is the problem. If you can not decipher and
translate all entries and know all orchid names so you can
correct misspelling, your sunk.
I like the idea of a written list of all entries for a location
or exhibit. Then line (single) out the ones not entered.
Preferably typed or computer generated. I am thinking of
suggesting that we have some type of self entry .. but how do you
get the ones that can not write to type?
but the truth is --- Get over it suzie -- it is just part of the
show ---
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php