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Old 28-01-2007, 01:36 AM posted to aus.gardens
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Default chookie wrote - was: FYI- water crisis story link:


"gardenlen" wrote in message
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sorry chookie,

with all these problems with bigsespool and the usenet presently, your
post (which i got from the google link) hasn't shown here and any
replies i do in google don't work as google states they don't have
that function, i did send you a p.m but not sure if it got there?

your dual flush has proibaly like you say stopped waste from a leaking
older cistern?

but even so if they are truely using 3 litres? (does anyone know for
sure?) then using that much high qulaity drinking water to flush waste
water isn't realy sustainable?

we don't use any water to flush urine, it only gets flushed when
solids are flushed, and mine gets saved into a bucket to water the
lucky citrus trees with.

not sure about solar but gravity feed is usually slower than normal
tap pressure, so would suggest special (doubtful results) low
pressure shower heads would be necessary.

not realy a supporter of rebates as all it encourages realy is people
doing things that get the rebate, not doing them because the see the
needs and the benefits to the whole system. ultimately we see lots of
minimum sized tanks (minimum to fit the rebate criteria) in yards, a
waste of tax payer derived funds, sojme up here can even make a
profit, good for them doesn't do much for the system overall.


Does it matter? The end result is the same.

you don't need a tank installer as such, if you ring one of your rural
tank makers they will come and site the tank (install it where you
want it) at the time of delivery, you just need to amke sure they ahve
access.

as for fitting downpipes and even a pump that is all DIY stuff no
rocket science in it at all, i don't even glue the fitting together
for downpipes as they push together very tight, makes for ease of
altering later on if need be.

i've been chatting with people from down south who are running
evaporatives and they tell me the usage figures again: 30 litres for
cooling purposes and 20 literes for flushing purposes = 50 litres per
hour of operation. almost a criminal waste of drinking water because
of poorly designed homes.


You've mentioned house de4sign before, how would a change of design help in
an area where the weather is constantly changing. We have droughts and
floods and very hot weather and very cold weather all in the same month.
There was snow inVictoria this summer.

most of those same people who are abhored at us running with coal
fired power stations will then run a fire or fuel burning heating
device through the long winter causing their own local pollution.

and to keep focused on that coal issue china currently has some 300 of
them and old technology at that, these stations belch out masses of
dense coal smoke (our stations are more modern than that), yet they
intend to double that amount of stations to 600 odd, so they can buy
the coal we won't be using. all while we are using safer more
expensive nuclear power which is what they want all the fresh water
for.

but we have to develop cleaner burning cola to sell them no doubt at a
pitance. when per-capita statements are used they are used to make
things look worse than waht they are, bet not much of the puiblic in
chine have ready access to power??

ower and water issues go jand in glove.



If you wrote at the end of what Chookie wrote, it would be much easier to
follow what you're answering to.