"K" wrote in message
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"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes

"K" wrote in message
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I'm considering getting rid of my Clematis montana and planting some
other
clematis there instead. What would be an alternative? I need it to
flower
the same time as montana (ie a bit later than the alpinas), to have
small
flowers, to be a lot less vigorous, but still vigorous enough to grow
above the 'slug zone', and to be happy in a cold Yorkshire climate.
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Kay

The best I can do is to suggest yet another C.montana that is a bit less
vigorous. Crug have a few options such as:-
http://www.mailorder.crug-farm.co.uk...aspx?pid=10554
Does it have to be a clematis or would something else flowering at the
right
time make a suitable substitute?

I'd like a clematis, but what else did you have in mind? Atm the montana
is just over, I have two climbing honeysuckles in flower, early roses, and
3 wisteria.

The clematis (or whatever) is to go into an 8 ft mock orange. The montana
used to be part of a thicket forming our border with the church car park
next door. Following a change of priest late last year, the church has
pruned our thicket back to our boundary (as is their right - thank
goodness they didn't also return to us all the prunings ;-) ) thus
destroying our privacy and our security in one fell swoop. We've now added
a 3-4ft trellis to the top of the stone wall boundary, which gives the
security back (or at least the illusion thereof, which is the important
thing), and I'm re-evaluating some of the things that were forming the
thicket - I'm planning more emphasis on roses and clematis and less on
pyracantha ;-)


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Kay
I was thinking of evergreen climbers. Not many are there?
Ivy and C.armandii are the usual choice but Tropaeolum ciliatum is a nice
thing. I was warned by Charlie Pridham about how invasive this is, but for
now it can invade as much as it wants.
Some of the Holboellias might make a nice change but I am not certain how
hardy some of the recent new offerings are supposed to be.
Both of these evergreen things flower fairly early so they might at least
plug the odd gap in your new thicket.