I have several Dortmund I grew freestanding until I could get around to
building something on which they could climb. They can get quite large, so
they would require regular pruning if you want them to stay under control.
I bet they would to fine as a pillar; that way you could let them climb a
bit and still keep them under control. Dortmund do well with about 5-6
hours of sun, and it you don't want the plant to get too large, more light
is not of great advantage.

You can always use Help Me Fine http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/roses.php to
hunt down some more options.

As far as soil, if you amend your clay I'll bet they'll do just fine.

Cheers

Jeff, Southeast Michigan, USA, Zone 5

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello,

I don't know much about roses in general, but I'm thinking of planting
one or two.

My garden isn't that huge, so I'm probably looking for something that
tall ( 6ft, 15ft) but doesn't take up too much space, it doesn't
need to be too neat and tidy, but at the same time like a moyesii
would be too wild.....I like single flowers (if thats the correct
term), I'm not too fussed about scent...I quite like things like
'dortmund', 'parkdirektor riggers', 'altissisimo', but am aware that
they are climbers.....can they be grown as free standing
shrubs?.....can anyone recommend any of these in particular or
anything else?

My soil is pretty heavy clay, midlands UK, so it needs to be
reasonably hardy, it would probably be in fullish sun.