"Eigenvector" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eigenvector" wrote in message
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Is there a plant or small bush that can be used in areas where the soil
is terrible?

I have a section of ground around my patio right over the septic tank
that has terrible fill dirt soil, lots of rocks, and one part gets full
sun and another shade from a big Doug Fir. So I'm looking for something
that doesn't have huge roots, and will survive in the Seattle Area. I
was looking at Periwinkle, but that is a bit too aggressive for me - I
don't need any more invasive species in my yard. I've also ruled out
Ivy due to the habit of vermin using it as a home.

Just something leafy and maybe flowers.


Pachysandra will thrive in some truly ugly soil and situations. In my
previous home, it lived in a spot where chunks of ice the size of shoe
boxes fell on it all winter, and it was roasted and dry all summer. The
plants just laughed at this treatment. However, you have absolutely no
excuse for not buying a bag of composted manure and mixing it into your
soil. While you're on your knees, you may as well sift out as many rocks
as you can.

Well, actually now that you mention it I'm just now on my way to the store
to pick up a mattock. I was about to put up some borders and noticed that
about 1/2" penetration was about all I could get out of my shovel. I
think its time to start hacking away at my yard. So yes I guess the soil
will be much improved - but my basic need remains. Something that is
tough, self-maintaining, and not a host to vermin like ivy.

I have a patch of Hen and Chicks in my front yard, the only plant I've
ever seen that crowds out rabbit brush and bermuda grass. But I think
this particular spot is too shady for them.


Pachysandra. They don't HAVE to have the soil enriched, but it's silly not
to, considering how cheap composted manure is. These plants don't have very
deep roots, either. As far as vermin, any ground cover that provides a
hiding place will provide shelter for vermin. But, if you need a ground
cover, what choice do you have?