"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Is there a plant or small bush that can be used in areas where the soil
is terrible?

I have a section of ground around my patio right over the septic tank
that has terrible fill dirt soil, lots of rocks, and one part gets full
sun and another shade from a big Doug Fir. So I'm looking for
something that doesn't have huge roots, and will survive in the Seattle
Area. I was looking at Periwinkle, but that is a bit too aggressive
for me - I don't need any more invasive species in my yard. I've also
ruled out Ivy due to the habit of vermin using it as a home.

Just something leafy and maybe flowers.


Pachysandra will thrive in some truly ugly soil and situations. In my
previous home, it lived in a spot where chunks of ice the size of shoe
boxes fell on it all winter, and it was roasted and dry all summer. The
plants just laughed at this treatment. However, you have absolutely no
excuse for not buying a bag of composted manure and mixing it into your
soil. While you're on your knees, you may as well sift out as many rocks
as you can.

Well, actually now that you mention it I'm just now on my way to the
store to pick up a mattock. I was about to put up some borders and
noticed that about 1/2" penetration was about all I could get out of my
shovel. I think its time to start hacking away at my yard. So yes I
guess the soil will be much improved - but my basic need remains.
Something that is tough, self-maintaining, and not a host to vermin like
ivy.

I have a patch of Hen and Chicks in my front yard, the only plant I've
ever seen that crowds out rabbit brush and bermuda grass. But I think
this particular spot is too shady for them.


Pachysandra. They don't HAVE to have the soil enriched, but it's silly not
to, considering how cheap composted manure is. These plants don't have
very deep roots, either. As far as vermin, any ground cover that provides
a hiding place will provide shelter for vermin. But, if you need a ground
cover, what choice do you have?
Yeah I suppose. I have something pictured in my mind, but just don't have
the knowledge to define it well enough.

I took a gander at the Pach stuff, I'm just not sure. I notice that it's
related to boxwood, something that did not survive planting in that
location - too much full sun I think. I'm not slamming your suggestion,
just pondering.

I may just go ahead and put a boatload of lavender there. I really like
that stuff and it seems to thrive in the sun.

As to the mattock, I didn't realize they were so cheap, had I known that I
would have gotten one sooner. Oh well, off to break soil.