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"George.com" wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
"George.com" wrote:
Interesting pod cast about renewable energy forms, especially algae grown
on
sewerage waste converted to bio-diesel.
http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/ntn/ntn..._fuels-048.mp3
Now, here's a real challenge. How does Cargill and ADM get Congress to
subsidize sewage scum? Will it be as successful at making people sick as
high fructose con syrup (type 2 diabetes), hydrogenated vegetable oil
(cardiovascular disease), or, perhaps, Monsanto's organophosphates
which slow metabolism?
What's that? Do I hear some innocent saying that oil from sewage scum
won't be used for food? Uh-huh.
Why would oil from sewerage be used as food? The algae grown on sewer ponds
could be used for bio-fuels which strikes me as a perfect win-win. We farm
already intensive land (sewerage ponds) to produce a crop (algae) that can
be used to create fuel AND we clean up the water. No sure of the costs
involved but it makes some sense to me. Existing bio-fuel production
involves using food to produce fuel, or food growing land to produce fuel
crops, or rainforest to grow fuel crops. This in itself creates problems,
never mind looking at the energy wasted to turn the likes of corn into fuel,
the impacts on famers in developing countries on the harvesting of fuel
crops, the potential loss of habitat, bio-diversity, potential damage to
soils & water ways etc etc. I like the idea that every time I have a dump I
could drive a kilometre on the by-product.
Billy
Bush & Cheney, Behind Bar
agreed. Why the hell give away $100 billion in tax credits to try and prop
up your economy? To my mind that money would be better spent on
infrastructure investment. Spend it on fixing your roads, bridges, power
grid etc. From what I understand the US infrastructure needs a fair bit of
attention. Not only do you get a tangible result at the end but the extra
spending will stimulate economic activity. The money going through companies
and wage packets can be taxed and the flow on effects will help hold up
aggregate demand.
rob
Whoa Rob. You are letting facts and reason get in the way of a tidy
profit. We (the editorial "we") here in the States think "Casino
Capitalism" is only for entrepreneurs (suckers). The real game is to
fund re-election campaigns like the "Energy Summit" sponsored by the big
Dick Cheney. Participants saw a four thousand fold return on their
investments. Thinking the way you do, the US would never have gone into
Iraq or Afghanistan, and the where would our military-industrial complex
be then? Just the prelude to the invasion of Iraq "required" more
ordinance than we used in both theaters during WWII. But we aren't here
to talk of the scandalous gang of miscreants who are running the US at
present or will be running it after next January.
I'm here to say that if an edible oil can be produced from crud eating
algae that is competitive in price with standard agricultural oils, you
KNOW that it is going to end up in highly refined prepared connivence
foods in combination with the GMO corn and soybeans.
I have no problem with bio-diesel from crud, bio-mass from crud, or
methane from crud, as long as it is used for fuel. The Afghanis cut out
the middle man and just burn the pasture pastries (no wood). It's just
seems to me, that our masters have decided to skin the sheep (us)
instead of shearing them. ( maladies that were brought on by high
fructose corn syrup and trans-fats. Weird proteins are made by GMOs and
allergic reactions to them still aren't well understood at present even
though they have entered the food pipeline. Just makes you wonder what
we will be guinea pigs for next.) I'm sure some board of directors will
be pleased with the quarterly profits.
I think paranoia is becoming a life skill.
May I just have plain, natural, non-technological food, please?
--
Billy
Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/2...g_study_counts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush