[quote=Stephen Wolstenholme;782049]

I can't even imagine 23 clematis in a small garden. Some grow huge. I
only have one and it is about 10 feet wide, up to the top of the wall
and then down the other side.

Steve

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that sounds like a nice established one you have there. what sort is i,t have you any pics i love to see peoples gardens