I looked up the gaskelliana. It was awarded a CBM Which I think is a
certificate of botanical merit (??) which has probably been replaced by the
CHM: certificate of horticultural merit. Anyway that was way back in 1962.
The owner of the plant was a Charles P. Slocum from Homestead. Description
says: Sepals and petals bluish white, lip hyacynth blue. Natural spread of
flower 6 1/4 ". In those days they measured in inches. That'd about 15.9
cm today. This info isn't in any of the awards programs. Its in the old
Register of Awards. The Lc. Egerland hybrid was registered in Germany in
1932 by Wolter. One AOS award, from N Carolina.
"K Barrett" wrote in message
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Just for my own information, where's the nearest judging center to you?
Miami?
K Barrett
"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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Very cool information. I'm saving it, and I may very well act on it. This
flower blows me away, and each time it blooms it gets bigger and flatter
and better.
Diana
"K Barrett" wrote in message
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OK you get a provisional award on this plant. You have to make a
somewhat decent attempt to find out who made the cross in the first
place. Since the person who sold you the plant is now out of business
(let's say - for this hypothetical) you have no way of knowing who did
either the L. purpurata x Lc. Egerland or the subsequent cross of that
hybrid onto C. gaskelliana.
Now you are in the position of registering 2 crosses:
1) L. purpurata x Lc. Egerland
2) that one crossed to gaskelliana.
The form to register a hybrid has a slot for 'Originator Unknown' so
you'd check that box for both crosses.
You could name the first Lc. Frank and the second Lc. Diana. It'd cost
you $25. ($12.5 per) Actually, you don't have to wait for the award.
You can just do it. AFAI can tell there's no clonal name associated
with your plant, I don't *think* its a meristem, so you can give it a
neat-o name like 'rgo's k' once its awarded.
Sure, the originator can get ticked that you named the plant before
s/he did, but they could have done that at any point in time, especially
as it had been provisionally awarded 4 years ago. IMHO to make a
halfway decent attempt to locate the originator would be to ask Alan at
Gold Country if he knew. Maybe ask RF. Maybe Art Chadwick. All these
folks are available online and if they didn't know who made an old cross
like this then you've at least tried 3 credible breeders for their
opinions.
K
"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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Right. So, a hypothetical. Suppose I get a provisional award on this
plant. How do I prove that the cross is valid so I can register it?
BTW, Redland Orchids is no more, AFAIK. They went out after the second
storm that same year.
I realize that this is a discussion we've had before. But new wrinkles
pop up all the time.
Diana
"K Barrett" wrote in message
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Then the exhibitor should have gotten it regitsered, but look like
they didn't. The award was given in 2004, so its probably been
voided.
K
"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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Too much to put in the subject line.
C. gaskelliana 'Blue Dragon' x Lc. (L. purpurata x Lc. Egerland).
Interestingly, the purpurata/Egerland cross is not listed in
OrchidWiz, nor can I find it on the RHS site. (I confess that I don't
have the best luck with RHS, however.) But there are plenty of
references tp it on line, including one from the 2004 AOS awards at
Redland:
http://www.aosflcarib.org/redland_in...festival_.html .
Scroll down for it if you have the inclination.
Diana