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Default Seven dust - Applied a month ago - Still toxic or not ?

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Jangchub wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:32:20 -0400, "Paul E. Lehmann"
wrote:

really expensive gift you got. Japanese beetles
are easily knocked into a bowl of water to drown
and sure when they're at peak you have to do it
every day but it still beats poison.


I have a backyard vineyard of 110 vines. I will
give you a glass of wine each time you come out
and drown them for me :-). I know a lot of
frinjdwelr wrote:


"Paul J. Dudley"
wrote in message
Okay Paul, if it can systemically enter your
skin and cause harmful reactions, don't you
know it will also be systemic on the cell
walls of grapes?

Yes. But I was hoping that a 6 week duration
might be long enough for
the dust to break down in toxicity. My neighbor
puts the stuff on all her greens ( collard,
cabbage, turnip etc ). She pounces it on with
an old nylon stocking. In fact, she does the


Unless you never drink wine, there is a VERY high
probability that you have drunk wine that was
grown using Sevin or Carbaryl 80 WP (liquid
Sevin)

Sounds like that was a commercial vineyards around here that will make

you the same offer.


Gallo wine is and has been a completely certified organic product for
decades.


Eeeeeh. The good news: Organic wine is a growing trend. Gallo, the
largest U.S. winemaker with 33% market share, currently has 2,700 of its
9,000 total acreage organically certified. Bad news: Gallo buys 2/3 of
California grapes, mostly from the bulk wine area of the "Central Vally".
Most Gallo wine isn't certified organic. Which isn't to say that
it isn't drinkable. Most of it is simply "California" (anywhere
in California) not necessarily one of the premium, cooler, wine
growing regions like North Coast or Central Coast or Alexander
Valley or Edna Valley.

The last I checked (2003) the following local wineries were
organic to some extent.

The following wineries have been ranked as: all organic vineyard and no
sulfites wines, all organic vineyard wines, bio-dynamic vineyards, and
organic vineyards

In order for a wine to qualify as organic, it must have just 10 parts
(or fewer) per million sulfites.
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All organic vineyard and no sulfites wines

H. Coturri & Sons LTD.
Visits by appointment
All wines made from organically-grown grapes, with no sulfites or other
preservatives added.
P.O. Box 396 6725 Enterprise Rd.,
Glen Ellen, CA 95442,
Telephone: (707) 525-9126
Fax707)542-8039
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.coturriwinery.com/
Founded 1979
Wines: Albarello, Merlot, Pinot Noir, Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet
Sauvignon/Sangiovese, Sangiovese, Zinfandel

Frey Vineyards
All wines made from organically-grown grapes, with no sulfites added.
Tastings by appointment only
14000 Tomki Rd,
Redwood Valley
CA 95470
Tel: 707.485.5177, 1.800.760.3739,
Fax: 707.485.7875
web site - www.freywine.com
Email:
Tastings by appointment only.
Chardonnay, Sauvignon Blanc,Gewurztraminer, Natural White, Blush,
Sauvignon Blanc, Zinfandel, Cabernet Sauvignon, Syrah, Petite Sirah,
Pinot, Merlot, Natural Red

other wineries that produce wines without sulfites:

Orleans Hill Vintners Association,
P.O. Box 1254,
Woodland, CA 95776
Tel: (530) 661-6538
FAX: (530) 661-1864
Founded 1980


La Rocca Vineyards,
P.O. Box 541,
Forest Ranch, CA 95942
Winery: 12360Doe Mill Rd.,
Forest Ranch, CA 95942
Tel: (530) 899-9463, (800) 808-9463,
Fax: (530) 894-7268
e-mail:

web site:
www.aroccavineyards.com
Founded 1984

Vinatura,
819 J Street,
Arcata, CA 95501
Tel.: (707) 822-7272

Honeyrun
2309 Park Ave.,
Chico, CA 95928
Phone: (530) 345-6405 Fax: (530) 894-6639

The Organic Wine Works/Hallcrest Vineyards
379 Felton Empire Rd.,
Felton, CA 95018
Phone: (408) 335-4441 or (800) 699-9463
Fax: (408) 335-4450
Hours: Daily 11am-5:30pm

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All organic vineyard wines

Fetzer Vineyards/Bonterra Vineyards
All Bonterra wines made from organically-grown, CCOF-certified grapes
13601 Eastside Rd.,
Hopland, CA 95449
Tel.: 800.846.8637 ext. 604, or 707.744.7600 ext. 604
e-mail from web site
web site - http://www.fetzer.com/
Wines: Chardonnay, Cabernet Sauvignon, Syrah, Viognier, Sangiovese

Frog's Leap
All wines made from organically-grown, CCOF-certified grapes
P.O. Box 189,
8815 Conn Creek Road,
Rutherford CA 94573
Tel: (800) 959-4704 or (707) 963-4704
Fax: (707) 963-0242
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.frogsleap.com/
Merlot, Zinfandel, Chardonnay, Leapfrogsmilch, Sauvignon Blanc, Cabernet
Sauvignon, Rutherford (Cabernet Sauvignon/Cabernet Franc )

Lolonis Winery
(No chemical pesticides since 1956.)
All wines made from organically-grown, CCOF-certified grapes
Mailing Address:
1904 Olympic Blvd., Ste. 8A,
Walnut Creek,
CA 94596
Winery:
1905 Road D,
Redwood Valley, CA
Tel: Sales & Mktg. Off. (510) 938-8066
Fax: (510) 938-8069
e-mail:
web site - :
www.lolonis.com/
Founded 1962
Wines: Chardonnay, Sauvignon Blanc, Viognier, Merlot, Pinot Noir,
Cabernet Sauvignon, Valdiguie, Petit Syrah, Zinfandel, Cabernet Franc

Madonna Estate Mont St. John
All wines made from organically-grown, CCOF-certified grapes
5400 Old Sonoma Rd.
Napa,
CA 94559
Tel: (707) 255-8864
Fax (707) 257-2778
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.montstjohn.com/
Founded 1977
Wines: Chardonnay, Pinot Noir, Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon, Pinot Grigio,
Johannisberg Riesling, Gewurztraminer and Muscat di Canelli

Napa Wine Company
All wines made from organically-grown, CCOF-certified grapes
Tastings are available by appointment
P.O. Box 434
7830 - 40 St. Helena Hwy, Oakville,
Ca 94562
Tel: (800) 848-9630 or (707) 944-1710
e-mail: .
web site -
http://www.napawineco.com/
Wines: Sauvignon Blanc, Pinot Blanc, Cabernet Sauvignon

Vigil Vineyards
Estate Reserve Terra Vin is made from organically-grown, CCOF-certified
grapes
3340 Hwy. 128,
Calistoga
CA 94515
Tel: (707) 942-2900
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.vigilwine.com
Wine: Estate Reserve Terra Vin (Zinfandel/Carignan/Refosco)

Yorkville Cellars
All wines made from organically-grown, CCOF-certified grapes
5701 Highway 128
P.O. Box Three
Yorkville (population 146),
CA 95494 USA
Tel: 707.894.9177
Fax: 707.894.2426
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.yorkville-cellars.com/
Wine: Sauvignon Blanc, Semillon, Eleanor of Aquitaine
(Semillon/Sauvignon Blanc), Cabernet Franc, Malbec, Petit Verdot,
Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon, Richard the Lion-Heart (Cabernet
Franc/Malbec/Petit Verdot/Merlot/Cabernet Sauvignon)

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Bio-dynamic vineyards

Benziger Family Winery and Everett Ridge Vineyard's are now using
biodynamic farming practices. Benziger Family Winery at their Sonoma
Mountain Estate Vineyards and all of Everett Ridge Vineyard's grapes.
Everett Ridge Vineyards were certified organic from CCOF in 1999.
Inquire at the wineries to determine if blending from non-organic
vineyards occurred.

Benziger Family Winery
1883 London Ranch Rd.
Glen Ellen,
CA 95442
(707) 935 - 3000 - voice
(707) 935 - 3016 - fax
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.benziger.com/index.shtml

Everett Ridge Vineyards and Winery
435 West Dry Creek Road,
Healdsburg CA 95448
Tel: 707-433-1637
Fax 707-433-7024
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.everettridge.com/
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Organic Vineyards

The following wineries have, in total or in part, organic vineyards.
This however does not mean that grapes from non-organic vineyards were
not blended into their wines. Inquire at the wineries.

Davis Bynum Winery
8075 Westside Road
Healdsburg, California 95448
Tasting Room: (800) 826-1073
Tel: (707) 433-2611
Fax: (707) 433-4309
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.davisbynum.com/


Kenwood Vineyards
P.O. Box 447
Kenwood, CA 95452
Tel: (707) 833-5891
Fax: (707) 833-1146
e-mail:
web site -
http://www.kenwoodvineyards.com/
WE'RE CERTIFIED ORGANIC! March 14, 1996
Three of Kenwood's vineyards are certified organic: Kenwood
Estate Vineyard, Yulupa Vineyard, and Upper Weise
Kenwood wines are bottled they are in a range of twenty-five to
thirty-five parts per million free sulfites.
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